http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/ Forum for GMT's "A World At War" Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:20:13 GMT BRUCE HARPER http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120017 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120017 I don't think Don worries about play balance, as he rarely plays the game (as far as I'm aware). I do, and I am worried about play balance. The change Don Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:21:39 GMT donmoody@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120016 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120016 ... About as much as I was when we changed airborne units to 1-factor units (or any of the other changes to beter reflect historical capability). So play Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:21:16 GMT donmoody@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120015 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120015 ... I understand the concept of 'simulate the tactical feel of WW2' but there is a limit to scale that simply results in bad history. On AWAW's scale, using Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:56:47 GMT Richard http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120014 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120014 Probably the best thing about AWAW is the way a grand-scale strategic simulation still has lots of "tactical" feel and nuance...It has lots of the tactical Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:01:16 GMT Mike Crowe http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120013 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120013 The ironic thing about this discussion is that I have most frequently seen airborne units used in Russia by the RUSSIANs, to BREAK encirclements, using Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:57:47 GMT Dave Hanson http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120012 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120012 I agree with Bruce, here. The ground attack would be the proper response. Just a piece of perspective... even the offensive against a lone 1m3 and three Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:28:25 GMT donmoody@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120011 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120011 ... I am sorry but this comment sticks in my craw. If we were talking about a game whose scale was company-sized or maybe even battalion-sized ground units, Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:46:50 GMT urukhai333 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120010 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120010 Apologize for coming late to the party....this horse has been badly beaten I know BLUF...while I generally bristle at games becoming historical simulations and Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:26:49 GMT donmoody@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120009 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120009 ... Actually, I think they accomplish more than they could have done (or in fact ever did). Of course, 'time is of the essence' in seaborne invasions, too - Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:18:14 GMT Maurice Miskow http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120008 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120008 ok, but perhaps we need to make it clearer then that 14.65 does not apply to a hex when 14.212 is in effect? Perhaps just add it as an exception in 14.65: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:04:18 GMT BRUCE HARPER http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120007 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120007 The actual issue is a very simple one, despite efforts to make it sound complicated: Should an airborne unit be able to hold a hex against an attrition (at the Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:40:26 GMT Maurice Miskow http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120006 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120006 Don is tough, so don't worry. anyways, I think the point is how we want 14.65 to be interpreted when it comes to hex control the first turn after an airborne Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:40:24 GMT balzak88 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120005 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120005 ... Don is entitled to defend his views but once those views are rejected it is only polite to accept what the majority thinks and not go on and on about it. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:29:31 GMT RScheers http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120004 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120004 ... That seems a little harsh. I think that Don has some valid points, even though I disagree with him in this case. It is very subjective on what *could* Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:55:26 GMT balzak88 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120003 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/aworldatwar/message/120003 ... if you feel so strongly about it, perhaps it is time to design your own game? Can't be difficult, just copy an history book. raf