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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:00:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>heavymetalflyer1</dc:creator>
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      <description>Erik, One thing we do have is sulfur in our raw well water, hence the need for the aerator before the softener. The sprayers release the sulfur and bad odor</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:56:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>heavymetalflyer1</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/barrelponics/message/14059</link>
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      <description>Erik, Elfn, &amp; Bill. Thanks for all the help. Plenty of pine straw on our property. I&#39;ll give that a try. THanks again, John</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:04:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bill Noonkesser</dc:creator>
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      <description>Try pine straw if you have any available...I packed the top tank with it and it brought the ph down immediately. -Bill</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:47:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Erik Akia</dc:creator>
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      <description>Sounds like you found the problem. I have one warning about using well water directly from the well. I have heard that some well water will have dissolved</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:45:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Reynaldo Torres</dc:creator>
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      <description>I just went thru this my self and it all comes down to been patient! I used epson salt, acitic acid, hydrocloric, just to name a few. After talking to Travis I</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:35:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>ElfN</dc:creator>
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      <description>Yeah, I had the same problem when my system was new.  Damned algae grew and grew raising the ph.  I finally put a vinyl cover over my tank to keep the sun out.</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:26:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>heavymetalflyer1</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/barrelponics/message/14054</link>
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      <description>&lt;Double Sigh&gt; Yes I read both of your oirginal responses in thier entirety. From my original post; I&#39;m having a &#39;high&#39; PH problem. Thanks for you input, John </description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:04:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>ElfN</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/barrelponics/message/14053</link>
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      <description>&lt;SIGH&gt;  You need to read the bit I was replying to.  I even made it REALLY easy by cropping the post to show WHAT I was replying to.  Yes, you are correct,</description>
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      <title>Re: Green-Trust Relocating to Travis Hughey&#39;s Barrelponics facility</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:02:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>ElfN</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/barrelponics/message/14052</link>
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      <description>Wind!  Yeah!  Wind!  I&#39;m interested in wind! &lt;LOL&gt; ElfN ... From: &quot;Michael Vanecek&quot; &lt;mike@...&gt;</description>
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      <title>Re: Green-Trust Relocating to Travis Hughey&#39;s Barrelponics facility</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:31:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Michael Vanecek</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/barrelponics/message/14051</link>
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      <description>I can see axial-flux wind-turbines working well in Kenya - it&#39;s so basic and the materials are easy to scrounge up. Lookin&#39; forward to seeing what neat stuffs</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:30:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>heavymetalflyer1</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/barrelponics/message/14050</link>
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      <description>I believe the shells are used for raising PH, not lowering as the dissolve below a 7.0 PH and then raise, from my reading anyway. John, Naples FL</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:27:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>heavymetalflyer1</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/barrelponics/message/14049</link>
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      <description>Hi Erik, New system. Finished it last week and ran it without fish to observe the mechanics and problem solve. Although there aren&#39;t any problems mechanically</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:02:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>ElfN</dc:creator>
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      <description>I add crushed oyster shell where the water can run over it. I have a knee high stocking full of shell in the outflow of the grow bed before it goes back into</description>
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      <title>Re: Need help. PH is bouncing up</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:43:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Erik Akia</dc:creator>
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      <description>I have used Muriatic acid before. I don&#39;t recall there being any problems. With fish in you need to go slowly whatever you do. Can you give more background</description>
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      <title>Re: Green-Trust Relocating to Travis Hughey&#39;s Barrelponics facility</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:18:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Steve Spence</dc:creator>
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      <description>Wait till you see my solar hydrogen plans for eliminating my propane usage. Steve Spence Renewable energy and self sufficiency http://www.green-trust.org </description>
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