http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/ This list is solely for the discussion of Irish Cudgel play, wrestling and striking arts (such as boxing as adopted by the Iris Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:04:51 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10411 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10411 Thanks Ralph That did clear things up for me. I think this is not too far off topic as it is genuine look at influences that might have possibly found their Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:28:05 GMT ggrasso06@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10410 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10410 john, its off topic but if ken allows , it will give it this shot----bayonet was basically invented as a thrusting /stabbing weapon[90 percent of the time Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:05:36 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10409 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10409 I'm sorry Ralph I'm just not getting it. Can you spell it out for me? I printed the manual and will be taking it to our practice today. Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:27:17 GMT ggrasso06@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10408 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10408 negative--bayonet fencing was the original system taught--it later changed to something like that after ww1-- In a message dated 2/8/2010 9:24:54 P.M. Eastern Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:24:52 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10407 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10407 So just to get my facts straight. This style was the founding principals for bayonet up until the first world war where things changed somewhat? Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:37:12 GMT ggrasso06@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10406 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10406 help and sharing and learning from each other is what this is about--i learn every day from listmembers--rg In a message dated 2/8/2010 11:35:32 A.M. Eastern Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:34:32 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10405 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10405 I got it Ralph . That seems to have done the trick. Looks good. We are getting together tomorrow and wednesday. This will give us something fun to do. I will Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:21:52 GMT ggrasso06@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10404 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10404 i just sent it-- In a message dated 2/8/2010 11:20:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, suullly@... writes: Forces are conspiring against us Ralph. Try this ( Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:19:58 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10403 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10403 Forces are conspiring against us Ralph. Try this ( themsp @ shaw.ca ) but remove the spaces. For some reason yahoo doesn't like e mail addresses posted Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:35:28 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10402 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10402 Try themsp@... Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:09:13 GMT ggrasso06@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10401 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10401 do you have another e-mail In a message dated 2/8/2010 12:12:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, suullly@... writes: Nothing yet Ralph, Maybe what you are Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:12:00 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10400 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10400 Nothing yet Ralph, Maybe what you are sending is to large. Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:31:00 GMT ggrasso06@... http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10399 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10399 i resent it In a message dated 2/7/2010 1:38:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, suullly@... writes: Sorry Ralph, It seems I am still a little stunned from new Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:49:36 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10398 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10398 And if we are fair about this point it should work in reverse as well. People like me who were raised doing this entirely oblivious to any outside history Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:38:04 GMT suullly http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10397 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/bata/message/10397 Sorry Ralph, It seems I am still a little stunned from new years eve. I though you meant last year. No I did not get it. Maybe try it again. I would love to