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      <title>Re: Certifying Building Performance</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:14:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pete Keithly</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/837</link>
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      <description>Are you saying that the building&#39;s energy usage will actually be measured (metered) or will the energy usage only be predicted through modeling and simulation?</description>
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      <title>Certifying Building Performance</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:07:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pittgirl</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/836</link>
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      <description>ASHRAE&#39;s new &quot;Building Energy Quotient program, which will be known as Building EQ, will include both As Designed (asset) and In Operation (as operated)</description>
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      <title>Re: Legitimacy?</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:54:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pete Keithly</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/835</link>
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      <description>Yes, it has been a long-winded discussion, but I for one have learned much that relates directly to the practice (and business) of Cx. Please understand that</description>
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      <title>Re: Legitimacy?</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:54:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Robin Weyand-Gardner</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/834</link>
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      <description>I wholeheartly agree with Al Tibbs.  This discussion, at least to me, has been long-winded and has long ago lost revelancy.  The commissioning process is a</description>
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      <title>Legitimacy?</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:22:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>bldg_commissioning</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/833</link>
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      <description>I hear alot of discussion here about legitimacy? I do agree 100% that Cx needs legitimacy. However, I have seen this issue before, with IAQ. When a select</description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:36:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>LOGARZO, JEFFREY          DTG</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/832</link>
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      <description>... From: bca-eforum@yahoogroups.com &lt;bca-eforum@yahoogroups.com&gt; To: bca-eforum@yahoogroups.com &lt;bca-eforum@yahoogroups.com&gt; Sent: Sat Dec 12 22:27:29 2009 </description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:11:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pete Keithly</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/831</link>
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      <description>Oneil, my issue is narrowly focused to the question of whether or not the state P.E. boards should have the exclusive right to decide that only a licensed P.E.</description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:27:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Gayle, Oneil</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/830</link>
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      <description>Pete, The reason why I say that this topic is missing the point is that debating whether or not having a PE license makes you a better Cx provider is not</description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:46:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pete Keithly</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/829</link>
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      <description>Whoops, sorry I called you Gaylon. I now see your name is O&#39;Neil. My bad. Pete Peter Keithly Keithly Barber Associates (206) 835-8254 Cell: (206) 910-8624 ... </description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:43:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pete Keithly</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/828</link>
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      <description>Thanks for your comments Gaylon, While I do agree with most of what you have to say, I am not sure I agree that we are missing the point. The very clear and</description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:30:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Gayle, Oneil</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/827</link>
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      <description>I think that everyone is missing the point by continuing down this road of PE vs. Non PE. Ultimately what has to recognized is the need for training and</description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:51:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pete Keithly</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/826</link>
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      <description>So what you are saying is that if a firm has say a licensed building operating engineer on staff, and that firm also has E&amp;O insurance, then they meet your</description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:55:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Garrison</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/825</link>
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      <description>... qualified to commission a building system. They are also leaving it up to a PE to decide if they are qualified to design a building system.  Should we have</description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:01:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Al Tibbs</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/824</link>
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      <description>I have carried E &amp; O insurance since 1992. Have performed over 5000 building related inspections. Have commissioned building for government entities, state</description>
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      <title>Re: P.E. versus Non-P.E. Discussion</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:18:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>pete@...</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bca-eforum/message/823</link>
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      <description>In response to the second part of David&#39;s posting where he says: &quot;As far as laws governing what area an engineer can work in. Note I said in his &quot;area of</description>
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