http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/ ByteWorks Shop Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:08:55 GMT Bill Hartnett http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4339 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4339 Just an echo on this being a timely warning, and an article worth looking at. I've seen machines going in for repair with variations on this malware for a Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:43:17 GMT Robert Citek http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4338 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4338 ... That, plus training, is how FreeGeek does it. Build N, keep the Nth + 1, where N is somewhere around 5. No fire, though, except for a BBQ. :) Regards, - Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:22:56 GMT mej@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4337 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4337 ... Yeah, we should just give the students bare hardware and a CD. Baptism by fire. I kid! I kid! ;) -mej- Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:17:43 GMT Robert Citek http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4336 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4336 ... Let me also state that, IMHO, installing is one of the least important issues we should be addressing. Regards, - Robert Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:12:36 GMT Robert Citek http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4335 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4335 ... Do I hear a wager? :) Regards, - Robert Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:08:31 GMT mej@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4334 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4334 ... That's a bold statement. And unless there's documented evidence to support your claim, I'm going to call shenanigans. ^_^ "much, much, much faster?" Much, Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:13:13 GMT Matthew Juneau http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4333 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4333 Do we have a list of all the e-mail aliases for the domain (hostmaster, dns-admin, info, et cetera) and where they point? -mej- ... [Non-text portions of this Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:41:46 GMT Robert Citek http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4332 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4332 ... Cloning+update is much, much, much faster, more consistent, and easier than installing over a network. ... BTW, Ubuntu 8.04 on 256 MB on a PIII works just Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:27:33 GMT mej@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4331 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4331 ... Ah, yes, good point about using netboot for the EAC machines. I had actually thought of that before, but forgot to think of it again. =) Running with the Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:29:32 GMT Robert Citek http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4330 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4330 ... Network image: yes. Netboot: not sure. I don't know how many machines can netboot. BTW, when you say netboot I'm assuming you mean PXE. Or do you mean Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:57:15 GMT mej@... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4329 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4329 ... I think the netboot route is the way to go as well, both for (re)imaging the classroom machines and building the EAC boxes. The classroom machines do not Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:47:39 GMT Theresa Kehoe http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4328 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4328 ... As Robert put it, it's getting harder to tell the good guys from the bad guys. Malware is getting far more sophisticated, and the motivation is changing Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:33:28 GMT Robert Citek http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4327 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4327 ... Google for Clonezilla. It does multicast. - Robert Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:56:53 GMT Scott Pircher http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4326 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4326 Nice. I'm looking at imaging options in the future for the large project you're familiar with. One I noticed recently (probably on this list, my mail server's Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:06:24 GMT Robert S. DeLorey http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4325 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/bworks_shop/message/4325 ... the ... Theresa, Thanks. I waded through about 8 pages of it. It confirms one of my fears. - The computer that I have now is the first one that I ever