http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/ CASE- COLT- INGERSOLL GARDEN TRACTORS Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:05:17 GMT Roland E. Farrar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49891 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49891 Yes John, Welcome to the group. The Case VIA is a small farm row crop tractor of , if memory serves, less than 20 hp. A very nice small tractor! The main stay Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:52:33 GMT Fred Baker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49890 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49890 John, welcome to the group. It is interesting to see that you have a older case 195. What is the condition of your 195 and what is a case via? Fred B ... From: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:30:59 GMT jwm1965 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49889 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49889 hello everyone thank you for letting me join your group.i have a 1965 case model 195 , a case vai. a farmall H and a david bradly and a monkey ward 2 wheel Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:25:27 GMT Roland E. Farrar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49888 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49888 Actually, Fred, as I understand it, Onan stopped building engines because they didn't meet the EPA standards of the "90's. Retooling would have been to Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:46:56 GMT BOB MERKLER http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49887 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49887 Tom H I usually agree with you....but if someone has 2000 hrs on Vanguard, thou a GOOD engine....they take MUCH better than average care of it. There is no Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:42:47 GMT lanny_withey http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49886 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49886 Kyle, I'm surprised no one has suggested this yet! Give in and purchase both machines, eliminates the stress of having to decide!! Lanny Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:40:24 GMT BOB MERKLER http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49885 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49885 Mike Why the make weight box for front end!! Bob M ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:36:38 GMT BOB MERKLER http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49884 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49884 Fred I think your correct on all points.......lets see if Vanguards are running in 20-25 yrs???? But then I'm biased. Bob M ... [Non-text portions of this Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:36:10 GMT ram50v8efi http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49883 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49883 ROTF-LMAO! ... home one part at a time, kinda' like Radar O'Reilly on M.A.S.H.?  Imagine the wife asking "Did you buy ANOTHER tractor?...  No, just a few Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:29:09 GMT Frederick J. Baker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49882 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49882 I can't get around the negative feelings expressed about onan engines. If they were still in business I would be willing to bet that Ingersoll would still be Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:34:39 GMT Michael Piper http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49881 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49881 Kyle I agree with  Tom Hanson,  The Vanguard is a very good engine.  I have a 1996 4016 with one and after nearly 700 hours, it still performs like new.  Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:46 GMT Roland E. Farrar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49880 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49880 Kyle, do you know what the symptoms are on the 4020? I have a complete engine that sucked an exhaust valve. If you do not buy it, I may be interested. If you Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:27:17 GMT Fred Baker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49879 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49879 Kyle, if you decide against the 4020 and it is cheap and close by, let me know... I could get real interested... 49097.. South/Central Michigan.. Fred B ... Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:20:26 GMT heretictoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49878 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49878 Here's the problem with your question. You don't state what the year of the tractors nor the price or how they are equipped. Both units likely have hourmeters Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:16:20 GMT John A http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49877 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casegardentractors/message/49877 I'm with Fred. If the Onan is repairable and the price is right, I would not shy away from buying it. The Briggs is a fine engine, but not in the same class as