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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move  advantage in chess</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:56:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>John Kipling Lewis</dc:creator>
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      <description>What he said...  ;-)</description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:55:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>John Kipling Lewis</dc:creator>
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      <description>I&#39;d take you up on that offering.  You can play as white and have a3. The other horrid move: f3</description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:16:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jerementality</dc:creator>
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      <description>Definitely. I would play black against 1. f3, 1. g4, possibly also the ones you mention. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]</description>
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      <title>Re: New pieces</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:53:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jose Carrillo</dc:creator>
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      <description>Here are two on my new pieces: The Courier Elephant: http://www.chessvariants.org/index/msdisplay.php?itemid=MScourierelephan The Silver Elephant (leaper): </description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:53:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
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      <description>Interesting.  But I wonder if there is any move that is so horrid that would make the other player choose to take black and proceed? For example, even a</description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:22:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mats Winther</dc:creator>
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      <description>A case in point is Burmese Chess where pieces are dropped, also on friendly pawns, which are immediately relocated. This means that the variant is</description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:50:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>John Kipling Lewis</dc:creator>
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      <description>I like what you said here about opening moves in some variants being without regard to what the other player was moving.  It would be interesting to see a</description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:27:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>joejoyce3</dc:creator>
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      <description>Jeremy, you&#39;re right, I sidetracked on discussing the elimination of the first-move advantage [or disadvantage], by answering other&#39;s responses directly rather</description>
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      <title>Re: New pieces</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:16:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>John Kipling Lewis</dc:creator>
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      <description>I was thinking more along the lines of playing FTF.  Of course a perfect arbiter is preferred. :-)</description>
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      <title>Re: New pieces</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:14:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mats Winther</dc:creator>
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      <description>... The preset, however, will check that the Swedish Cannon moves are legal. Mats</description>
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      <title>Re: New pieces</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:28:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>John Kipling Lewis</dc:creator>
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      <description>My favourite is The Adjutant, although I differ in your valuation.  I would rank it slightly higher than a rook, but only slightly. I love the Korean Cannon</description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:21:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>John Kipling Lewis</dc:creator>
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      <description>In Simplified Chess, a variant designed to remove some of the kruft from Standard Chess, I&#39;ve found that the first move advantage is greatly reduced but for an</description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:51:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jerementality</dc:creator>
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      <description>Mats Winther &lt;mwi9@...&gt; wrote: &quot;Of course, it would be no point, for grandmasters, to devote themselves to orthochess if there were no first move</description>
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      <title>New pieces</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:41:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mats Winther</dc:creator>
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      <description>I have spent much time investigating new piece characteristics and have acheived some interesting results. Many are quite useful despite being atypical in</description>
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      <title>Re: Why the apparent preference for the one move advantage in chess?</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:38:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mats Winther</dc:creator>
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      <description>Of course, it would be no point, for grandmasters, to devote themselves to orthochess if there were no first move advantage. The game would have been even more</description>
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