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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:39:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Pierre</dc:creator>
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      <description>Yes indeed.  Most people are so concerned with instant gratification that they mistranslate the following to mean &quot;get baptized and be immediately</description>
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      <title>Confession</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:23:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
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      <description>I must confess that the only reason that I joined this forum was because the debate was dominated by Muslim theology. Now that the individual concerned has</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:12:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Marcus Ampe &amp; Belgian Christadelphians</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christadelphianbeliefsdebate/message/2956</link>
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      <description>... In case you understand &quot;salvation&quot; only becoming in action when the transformation from mortal to immortal takes place then naturally it comes in a proper</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:25:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Pierre</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christadelphianbeliefsdebate/message/2955</link>
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      <description>&quot;punishment&quot; simply refers to the sentence of death which will never be revoked and without revocation, there is no resurrection from.   ... From: Marcus</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:48:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Marcus Ampe &amp; Belgian Christadelphians</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christadelphianbeliefsdebate/message/2954</link>
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      <description>... Once a person die for the second time (the second dead), he or she shall be dead for ever. So that punishment shall be for ever. [Non-text portions of this</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:56:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Pierre</dc:creator>
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      <description>salvation is the gift..............forgiveness of sin only comes from the payment in blood. The two are mutually exclusive but not unconnected.  One must</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:55:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Pierre</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christadelphianbeliefsdebate/message/2952</link>
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      <description>You used the phrase &quot;message of the bible&quot;. ... From: Craig &lt;craig.boyd35@...&gt; Subject: Re: [Christadelphian Beliefs Debate] Christadelphian beliefs;</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:54:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Pierre</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christadelphianbeliefsdebate/message/2951</link>
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      <description>not so.  read the kjv. &quot;Spiritual maturity&quot; is NOT a term used in any translation.   ... From: Craig &lt;craig.boyd35@...&gt; Subject: Re: [Christadelphian</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:55:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
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      <description>Why are these &quot;poor translations&quot;? I am talking about spiritual maturity here, not perfection. In each of these verses, the author is speaking about &quot;spiritual</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:49:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
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      <description>Where did I say that it was? In your opinion, what is the Bible meant to be?</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:47:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christadelphianbeliefsdebate/message/2948</link>
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      <description>So what gift is Paul talking about in Ro 5:15-16? Is the payment not also a free gift from God?</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:00:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Pierre</dc:creator>
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      <description>these are poor translations and not all have the same subject.  Perfection has nothing to do with &quot;maturity&quot;. The phrase &quot;spiritual maturity&quot; is found nowhere</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:54:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Pierre</dc:creator>
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      <description>the Bible was never meant to be a &quot;message&quot;. ... From: Craig &lt;craig.boyd35@...&gt; Subject: Re: [Christadelphian Beliefs Debate] Christadelphian beliefs;</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:53:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Kimberly Pierre</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/christadelphianbeliefsdebate/message/2945</link>
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      <description>they are in the scriptures.   ... From: Craig &lt;craig.boyd35@...&gt; Subject: Re: [Christadelphian Beliefs Debate] Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil</description>
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      <title>Re: Christadelphian beliefs; satan, the devil continued</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:31:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
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      <description>These two terms are not mutually exclusive.</description>
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