http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/ cm-melb - Cycling & Transport Discussion Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:47:11 GMT Anthony Morton http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10442 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10442 ... Meh. Funny he hasn't noticed the phone book stopped coming out in A-K and L-Z sections a couple of years ago, either. If you're going to try to be funny Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:09:56 GMT stib http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10441 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10441 I'll have to get my nan to knit one of those. -stib Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:03:27 GMT justin_m_au http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10440 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10440 ... A Red Light Jumper, I would suspect. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:59:19 GMT stib http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10439 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10439 The problem about doing this at the Melville Rd intersection is that there is sometimes a right turn arrow. So then you don't get a pedestrian light and you Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:45:29 GMT nikdow http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10438 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10438 Hook turns are legal at any intersection, for bikes AFAIK. However this requires you to wait twice for a green light.I do hook turns but if I arrive at a red Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:27:22 GMT Jacinta Richardson http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10437 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10437 ... (I am not particularly familiar with this intersection, I've cycled straight through it once, and driven through it once). Surely the safest way is to do Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:46:38 GMT stib http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10436 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10436 What does RLJ* mean? I googled but only turned up Russian Language Journalists.. So let me get this straight. Road rules pertaining to bike lanes can be Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:16:33 GMT Moz http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10435 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10435 ... Amusingly I nearly got doored in Wellington last week. But the motorist realised I was there just in time and slammed the door onto their own leg. Amusing Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:15:06 GMT nikdow http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10434 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10434 The Age (& other mass media) were already on my list of things that I don't bother with (wouldn't say I hate them, can't be bothered getting that excited...). Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:09:52 GMT victor rajewski http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10433 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10433 Wow. I think he's trying to be moronic, er, I mean ironic. Or funny or something. Ah well, quality at the Age has gone downhill too fast; might have to stop Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:04:11 GMT Dean Lombard http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10432 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10432 Age columnist Jim Schembri lists 24 things he hates and four of them are cyclists Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:02:42 GMT nikdow http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10431 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10431 The CBD is full of bike lanes that are so narrow that they are a joke - if a car door opens it goes past the bike "lane" into the traffic lane! But I don't Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:27:25 GMT justin_m_au http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10430 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10430 ... I don't agree that this statement suffices. Three very short paragraphs in a 30-plus page transport plan makes bikes seem like an afterthought. Also the BV Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:01:55 GMT Alex Thompson http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10429 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10429 Have you read the discussion paper? It's a bit better there. "The easiest way to make Melbourne better bike is to reduce the number of cars on the road. A Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:32:47 GMT alex4point0 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10428 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cm-melb/message/10428 ... even ... and ... Greens ... With the increasing amount of cyclists choosing to be RLJ* it might even be a deliberate act to leave them out. Lost count of