http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/ Coad Color Modeling Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:33:30 GMT Gyula http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/269 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/269 One more thing: I've found RAVEN FLOW to be an interesting tool, too. Though I've never used it in real life projects, just seen the demo of it I think it is Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:44:58 GMT David J. Anderson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/268 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/268 I think a modeling tool should support iterative development and remember "versions" of a model created after each iteration, be able to show these versions Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:20:37 GMT Gyula http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/267 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/267 Hi! For object oriented (or more genereally software) modeling I put my vote on UML scetches (see for instance: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:01:18 GMT Stephen http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/266 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/266 Having left Micro Focus last month, means I have left behind the Together modeling tool too. While I wait for whatever is next, I have started to look Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:09:06 GMT Nuno Lopes http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/265 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/265 I for one enjoyed and appreciated your response. I feel that might thoughts run closer to yours now and that gives me some assurance :) When looking for domain Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:51:07 GMT Stephen R Palmer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/264 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/264 Hi Nuno Thanks for the feedback, maybe I need some better examples in this case. I agree models have to be viewed in light of their context, and too broad a Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:16:14 GMT Nuno Lopes http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/263 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/263 Hi Steve, I've been following for a long time your work and David on DNC and FDD. At least since 2003 when I was asking questions about DNC on the FDD site to Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:39:45 GMT ClassMaker http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/262 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/262 Hi Nuno -- For any ID *unique-to-instance* of some Product, then, yes, I'll "go green." -- Examples: S/N's on computers, appliances, etc.; VIN's on vehicles; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:57:29 GMT Nuno Lopes http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/261 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/261 Thanks for the input Ken. ... It depends on the domain. In a warehouse all products have an SKU so product is this context is a thing. Yet for cataloguing, UPC Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:36:21 GMT Stephen R Palmer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/260 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/260 Roles and security can become a big topic, and it can be very difficult to generalize. Basic, generic access control that determines who can access which Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:11:09 GMT ClassMaker http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/259 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/259 PS, Nuno -- I just saw Palmer's message... [Date: Oct 28, 2009 10:40 AM] Start with his first link, on "Historic Values" ...and keep reading. Steve -- you Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:45:25 GMT Ken Ritchie http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/258 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/258 Hi Nuno -- Try starting with Product (description), in blue of course, rather than a (thing). That description may include certain "fixed" value attributes Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:17:33 GMT Nuno Lopes http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/257 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/257 Try this. Consider Security and Business are usually distinct concern. Depending on organization security is even manage by a different department then say Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:46:18 GMT Nuno Lopes http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/256 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/256 I'm going out in the limb here. There are far more proficient people reading this list then me so they may correct me any time. Price is usually a value object Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:43:21 GMT Stephen R Palmer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/255 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/colormodeling/message/255 Hi For brief introduction to historic values and snapshots see http://www.step-10.com/SoftwareDesign/ModellingInColour/HistoricValues.html For a brief