http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/ De Bellis Multitudinis and DB* related Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:53:13 GMT Steve Burt http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189184 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189184 ... Of course it does. The vast majority of my DBM games have been historical refights or scenario games. Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:27:59 GMT william http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189183 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189183 Just noticed a major difference from this version compared to the one on Luke's website. The image at the top of Luke's page has seven shields on it while Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:22:26 GMT william http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189182 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189182 Great find NIk. It will be interesting to compare the shield pattersn from this version to the ones at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:42:01 GMT James Hamilton http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189181 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189181 I agree, DBM at tournaments with 4 generals in an army and perhaps 70 elements means that on average you have 1 PIP for every 5 elements on the table. This Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:33:18 GMT graham_briggs http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189180 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189180 ... Hi Dave, I'd say DBM works better for non-tournament scenarios. We did a number of big (1000+ points) with it that had a much more historic feel than the Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:46:06 GMT Gaukroger Nicholas http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189179 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189179 Apologies for anyone receiving this too often - but hopefully of interest. Looking at Roman Army Talk I found this link to a scan of one of the copies of the Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:59:58 GMT waynedacia http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189178 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189178 Thanks, John. I appreciate your time and effort you put into posting the clarifications. It was indeed "Shut up Dave" who sent me the questions which I Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:21:06 GMT Luke Ueda-Sarson http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189177 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189177 Quoth Dave: "Since fortified Roman camps were almost impregnable to assault ( for instance ,Hannibal's and later Antiochus's refusal even to attempt an Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:28:52 GMT dusilu http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189176 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189176 I am glad to hear that others are using dBM for general games. It has been a matter of discussion locally about whether or not DBM works for non-tounament Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:37:21 GMT panos Papadopoulos http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189175 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189175 Platon, Platonos 3, Moshato, approx. 33 E/night http://www.booking.com/hotel/gr/platon.html?sid=02bf04842ffe582c4575fd8340960f52;origin=disamb Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:10:23 GMT John http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189174 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189174 Hi Dave Yep, not much activity on this list because there aren't so many active DBM players any more. Regrettable though this is, it does mean a more restful Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:57:37 GMT dusilu http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189173 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189173 First, I would like to thank all those who responded constructively to the query that Wayne made. Now . . . My most not sincere apologizes for Wayne's Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:21:05 GMT graham_briggs http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189172 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189172 I believe there are some complexities here, and they may not all be in the public domain. I think that Keep Wargaming (owned by paul and Theresa Bailey) did Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:52:21 GMT Luke Ueda-Sarson http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189171 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189171 ... And even then, they are only "personal-use only" in the sense of "your are less likely to be 'done' using them this way", since they are still illegal Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:55:27 GMT John http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189170 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/dbmlist/message/189170 So you know which command's PIPs are used to move it, and when it becomes demoralised (fleeing off the table if mobile, unless held, and counting -2 in