http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ DML - the DeLorean Mailing List Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:22:39 GMT Marc Levy http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80460 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80460 Comments below. ... Huh?  My comment was not about the law.  It was about your circular argument..  ... Once the facts are agreed on, then people can form Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:01:41 GMT mike.griese@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80459 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80459 ... [snip] ... Then go lobby to change patent and trademark law. ... Then what? ... Who would you have own the trademark, if not DMCH? Should it have been Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:15:19 GMT Josh Haldeman http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80458 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80458 Saturday, March 13th, 2010 - Cincinnati St Patrick's Day Celebration For the past 10 years The DeLorean Club of Ohio has participated in the Cincinnati St. Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:55:10 GMT daveswingle2 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80457 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80457 I've seen a sticky ignition switch do this (broken internal spring, you turn it manually back to "run" from "start"). Doesn't explain his temperature Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:55:09 GMT Marc Levy http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80456 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80456 As I stated before, I realize that in the squatter examples that there is some legal recognition for such a situation, but that does not make it ethically Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:54:04 GMT mike.griese@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80455 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80455 Actually yes. Scenarios like this can and do happen - maybe not with real estate, but certainly with other private property. One of my Esprits was converted Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:53:20 GMT jtrealtywebspannet http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80454 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80454 I think you are correct, even squatters have rights! I don't know if and how it applies in this case though. David Teitelbaum Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:51:45 GMT mike clemens http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80453 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80453 Steve,   It appears everyone else is busy talking about trademarks, so I will attempt to help.   The blue/yellow wire goes to the ignition resistor which Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:27:52 GMT Farrar Hudkins http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80452 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80452 ... Actually, I heard about this on the radio last week, and looked it up on the C-Span website. They have a "Congressional dictionary." Comes in handy for Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:25:48 GMT Kevin Abato http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80451 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80451 Correct Mike. Every ten years a trademark must be re-registered for use, or it is considered "abandoned" and can be re-registered by anyone Marc and I did do Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:24:30 GMT Marc Levy http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80450 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80450 True, but I think their lawyers would have realized that if anyone challenged it, their claim would have been overturned.. so, why bother? Considering none of Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:01:01 GMT corey ooms http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80449 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80449 Thank god for Wikipedia! :) Corey 2423 To: dmcnews@yahoogroups.com From: fhudkins@... Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:20:50 -0600 Subject: Re: [DML] DMC and Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:00:44 GMT jtrealtywebspannet http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80448 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80448 Mark, you're arguing with me can't settle this one way or another. Neither of us are lawyers specializing in Trademark Law. If you want to point out that DMCH Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:00:28 GMT mike.griese@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80447 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80447 One point that I don't recall having been made is that during the time that the DMC logo was unprotected, anybody could have registered it. Anybody. Ford, GM, Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:38:14 GMT mike.griese@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80446 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/80446 Richard - one of the key tenets of trademark law is that once you have a trademark, you have to defend it. If you let anyone use it willy-nilly, you can lose