http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/ ELT Dogme Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:48:46 GMT nowordssteph http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14696 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14696 Hi Darren, Don't know about Wabi Sabi - but I can comment on Zen. Zen is a word from the Mahayana Japanese Buddhist tradition. In Tibetan Buddhism the word is Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:07:18 GMT darren http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14695 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14695 Can we get a stay on the zen, the wabi-sabi, and the glamour of being poor? It's not the ideas I object to, just the metaphors. You can bet the peasants Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:18:14 GMT Celso Camargo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14694 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14694 Yet another proof that apparently irreconcilable differences actually have more in common than the other way around... Z., I'm impressed ( and beginning to get Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:45:52 GMT Celso Camargo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14693 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14693 Just came across this movie, " Entre Les Murs , (2008, France) ", and wonder if anyone has seen it. It seems to me that the teacher is quite 'dogmetic'.... Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:52:03 GMT Dennis Newson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14692 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14692 A fascinating discussion starting here with subject line by Rob, I think, and content from Scott, Gavin and Diarmuid so far. I'd like to make a statement, but Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:05:25 GMT Gavin Dudeney http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14691 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14691 Scott, Sorry, the reference you were looking for (forgot to answer your 'challenge') was here: http://twitter.com/thornburyscott/status/4769464808 "@ Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:51:28 GMT Gavin Dudeney http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14690 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14690 Scott, You're absolutely right, there was one sole 'porn' comment by you - however, it was exactly the kind of cheap, shock horror Daily Mail tabloid Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:26:35 GMT Scott http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14689 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14689 ... Just as long as ... there's a level playing field... Gavin, this is the dogme site, pledged to "seeking alternatives to models of instruction that are Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:39:58 GMT Gavin Dudeney http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14688 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14688 Scott, That's fine..... I do think you need a few more 'certains' in the paragraph I quoted which does appear to paint a very black picture of the world Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:37:52 GMT Karenne Sylvester http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14687 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14687 D, I don't have time to reply, I'm sorry - juggling 30 teaching hours this week and several deadlines and other stuff with the word 'urgent' scrawled across Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:50:28 GMT Scott http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14686 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14686 ... If you read back, I said: "Fundamental to this progressive, even critical stance, is a general scepticism about mainstream education philosophy, Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:14:07 GMT zpd.english@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14685 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14685 If the water isn't too hot, perhaps more people might jump in. I think we're on to a no winner here if we attack the lifestyle choices of individuals - after Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:36:40 GMT Robert Haines http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14684 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14684 Yes, I meant to write that in the subject line. My feeble attempt to lighten things up a bit (not like me at all). Apologies Gavin; not sure if yours counts as Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:59:04 GMT Gavin Dudeney http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14683 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14683 Scott, That'll be 'World' of Warcraft, rather than the redundant 'War' of Warcraft - a game I have never played, as it happens (neither your new version nor Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:45:44 GMT Scott http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14682 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/14682 ... On the contrary: situating the debate in terms of values and ideology actually foregrounds "the semi-relgious fervour". It cuts out any pretence that it is