http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/ EAA PHEV Projects Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:16:52 GMT Paul http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3750 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3750 Hello, New zealand imports the older PRIUS models from Japan second hand so there is now a company specialising in reconditioning the PRIUS battery by Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:31:07 GMT Steve Woodruff http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3749 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3749 Anybody else been to the Progressive automotive X-Prize Section at the SEMA show? Steve Woodruff aseet (AS electronics engineering technology) 812-820-5050 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:47:12 GMT Gil Dawson http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3748 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3748 Hi-- ... We pay a bit less by using a timer and a Time-of-Use meter. The Los Angeles DWP charges $6/month rental for the TOU meter vs 30¢/month that Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:14:58 GMT philip madsen http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3747 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3747 Ronald said, due to zoning restrictions borne of understandable NIMBYism.) Thats terrible! I first thought you were talking about TV interference flutter. Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:24:02 GMT Ronald Gremban http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3746 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3746 See below. ________________________________ From: philip madsen [mailto:pma15027@...] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:50 PM To: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:31:16 GMT Robert Bruninga http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3745 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3745 ... Did you mean to say "discharging battery"? Or did you just mean solar power. Because charging a battery at off peak rates (16 cents) and then selling it Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:23:54 GMT Ernesto Montenero http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3744 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3744 Daniel; PG&E has an EV rate. Also there are Time of use rate. Look at all the PG&e rates and figure out witch better works for you and try to qualify for it. Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:54:20 GMT philip madsen http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3743 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3743 I have found that solar helps little during our winter monsoon season, Yeah? Thats why I want a wind turbine as well ... Makes up for the no sun days, Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:00:15 GMT eaa-phev@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3742 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3742 Philip, Most of this discussion is about the PG&E rates in Northern California, where the first 250 to 800 kwh are at the bottom rate of $.12. Usage above that Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:59:55 GMT Daniel Sherwood http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3741 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3741 FYI in California instead of paying a flat rate like you do in Queensland, they charge you more for your power the more power you use. They called this a Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:11:42 GMT Ronald Gremban http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3740 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3740 See below for the message excerpts that I'm responding to. 1. PG&E's E-9 rate, though otherwise separate from a household, still contributes to household tier Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:19:33 GMT philip madsen http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3739 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3739 Remember if people charge their plugin hybrids every night that is 4.7kwh*30=141kwh per month. That will push a vast majority of people into a minimum of Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:16:49 GMT Daniel Reuter http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3738 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3738 Hey Daniel, For PGE its called the E9 program. They give you a major break for charging offpeak (at night). They have excess capacity at night so they have an Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:04:04 GMT eaa-phev@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3737 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3737 Daniel, Indeed, the addition of about .25 kwh for each mile driven will add 200-500 kwh per month to many EV households, putting them well into the upper Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:45:06 GMT eaa-phev@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3736 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaa-phev/message/3736 Last I knew a number of the CA power companies had special rate plans for EVs. I believe you needed to have a separate meter installed, but then you got your