http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/ election-methods-list Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:19:27 GMT election-methods-electorama.com-request@elector http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14358 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14358 Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Election-methods We have received a request for the removal of your email address, Sun, 16 May 2004 23:32:15 GMT Rob Lanphier http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14357 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14357 Hi everyone, After making repeated attempts to contact Yahoo, with no response, I'm shutting down the Yahoo Groups access to the election-methods-list. A Sun, 16 May 2004 23:02:36 GMT MIKE OSSIPOFF http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14356 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14356 I forgot to mention: There were 9 ballots posted, in February & March of this year, for the EM presidential poll. If that doesn't sound like much, it's a lot Sun, 16 May 2004 22:41:15 GMT MIKE OSSIPOFF http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14355 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14355 In the EM presidential poll that we voted on in February and March of this year, Nader won the Approval count. Nader was the only candidate to receive Approval Sun, 16 May 2004 22:32:14 GMT James Gilmour http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14354 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14354 ... You can play with the figures all you like, but all you are doing is trying to avoid the real question of the likely response of real voters in a real Sun, 16 May 2004 22:22:34 GMT James Gilmour http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14353 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14353 ... Agreed. ... OK, but I was not talking about YOU. I am quite prepared to believe that many on this list either would have no problem with the CW in these Sun, 16 May 2004 21:16:23 GMT Xavier Mora http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14352 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14352 I would like to submit to the consideration of the EM list a paper that I've written recently in connection with election methods. I have made it available in Sun, 16 May 2004 20:46:01 GMT James Green-Armytage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14351 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14351 ... Well, actually what I think is more unlikely about that classic example is that anyone with only 3% of first choice votes would be a totally unanimous Sun, 16 May 2004 19:29:54 GMT Jan Kok http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14350 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14350 ... [and expressed doubts about whether the public would accept a voting system that chose C as the winner] What I see here is a highly polarized electorate. Sun, 16 May 2004 17:31:12 GMT Kevin Venzke http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14349 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14349 Brian, ... This is the first I've heard someone suggest eliminating based on a vote that you have to split into pieces. It would be better if you let people Sun, 16 May 2004 16:58:11 GMT Ken Johnson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14348 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14348 ... Brian: I suggest the following modification of your procedure: Before normalizing each voter's absolute rating sum to 1, apply a constant additive shift to Sun, 16 May 2004 16:29:05 GMT James Gilmour http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14347 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14347 Adam Thanks for your helpful comments. ... Maybe, but I remain VERY sceptical. I would still expect public rejection of any voting system that elected a Sun, 16 May 2004 16:20:17 GMT Adam Tarr http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14346 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14346 ... I think that such a vote could be "marketed" in a way that would make it relatively uncontroversial. "In cases with no first-place majority winner, Sun, 16 May 2004 15:27:46 GMT bql@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14345 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14345 ... I'd say this means: If you have two elections, A,B,C and D,E,F, if you merge them into A..F, the relative rankings of A:B:C and D:E:F won't change in the Sun, 16 May 2004 11:30:10 GMT James Gilmour http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14344 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/election-methods-list/message/14344 ... No, there is no sophistry in my argument. ... No. that is not what I am saying. I am suggesting they would vote sincerely but then reject the outcome of