http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/ Electric Vehicles for sale Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:40:48 GMT doug korthof http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12506 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12506 John, That was a required REPORT to SEC about a PRESS RELEASE ABOUT the settlement agreement; in no way, shape or form were the "confidential" [SECRET] Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:41:40 GMT Karma Thubten Kalzhing http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12505 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12505 I have asked Jay Friedland several times why Plug In America won't push for some action on chevron's control over nimh technology. DOE or Justice could push Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:55:01 GMT murdoch http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12504 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12504 The documentarian asked me to pass along that the price has been lowered. Sure, I understand that it's still a high price compared to some documentaries that Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:03:54 GMT jpenry@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12503 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12503 I wasn't going that deep into the psychology of buying a car. I was just comparing the numbers for a gas version Fusion Hybrid vs. a Hybrid Fusion. The Hybrid Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:38:19 GMT JS http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12502 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12502 For those interested in seeing the settlement look at http://www.secinfo.com/d1Z31.12b.htm John in Sylmar, CA Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:15:27 GMT murdoch http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12501 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12501 The R1E effort is current only as of 2007 or 2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_R1e ... The Stella EV effort does not seem to have its own page. Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:30:50 GMT murdoch http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12500 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12500 There are some cars on the road in Japan, but you're right, I think the timetable for release in limited numbers to fleet customers starts in a month or two. Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:27:10 GMT murdoch http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12499 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12499 Here is a new (to me) voice on the scene: http://www.dcmonitor.com/default.htm Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:48:54 GMT Lisa Rosen http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12498 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12498 Operating an auto bring mobility into your life. Humans are passionate about mobility, and I suspect, if you could wire up their brains you could see that for Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:03:30 GMT doug korthof http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12497 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12497 What really sells cars has been nailed-down by decades of research. One factor is a cost-benefits equation ("what car has the lowest operating cost over its Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:33:22 GMT John Penry at TransTexasTrucks http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12496 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12496 Wheels: G.M. to End Pontiac Vibe Production in AugustChevy killed the puny Malibu Hybrid, as sales were dismal. They say that Ford is selling the Fusion Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:36:03 GMT doug korthof http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12495 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12495 VOLT-hoax: GM's addition of a gas genset is "A SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM". Bob Lutz, who postures as a monumentally stupid oil-fired liar, thinks there's Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:24:12 GMT Lawrence Rhodes http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12494 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12494 From the SFEVA. Jason makes a good point. My answer below. Posted by: "jason jungreis" jasonjungreis@... Date: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:58 pm ((PDT)) GM Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:32:23 GMT doug korthof http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12493 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12493 Hi Murdoch, Thanks for the optimism. But I note, "...there are no less than three or four established Japanese automakers...with highway...capable LiOn cars on Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:51:09 GMT murdoch http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12492 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/electric_vehicles_for_sale/message/12492 Well, if the extent to which Lithium Vehicles stays only in the limited niche of overly-expensive vehicles requiring expensive battery exchange every few