http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/ Elvish Linguistics List Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:00:25 GMT Palatinus http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35709 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35709 ... Truth be told, the site is not a learning resource. It is directed to people interested in RPG and fanfiction, who are not interested in learning how the Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:19:00 GMT Helge K. Fauskanger http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35708 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35708 ... you can sort of order the person to get things to you, but is there a way to say the equivalent of the English 'please' in Quenya? The word _iquin_ occurs Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:18:49 GMT aelindis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35707 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35707 Well, after browsing through this "Real Sindarin Phrase Book" I would say that there are some plausible phrases intermingled with questionable and totally Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:18:20 GMT abrigon@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35706 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35706 Qyenya Formal to familiar? Mike Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:15:20 GMT Chris http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35705 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35705 http://www.realelvish.net/allinone_sindarin.php Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:08:47 GMT Phillip Wayne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35704 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35704 The problem with a Qenya (or any language, for matter) equivalent to 'please' is that it has a wide set of of meaning. Please='a polite request marker' (Please Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:51:18 GMT marize2t http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35703 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35703 I understand that when you ask for things you can do so politely, or you can sort of order the person to get things to you, but is there a way to say the Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:20:35 GMT cgilson75 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35702 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35702 A new issue of _Parma Eldalamberon_ was published a couple of months ago and the response was tremendous. Thank you! The interest and support of students of Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:06:43 GMT Phillip Wayne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35701 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35701 Yes, you can omit the consonants. Most semitic scripts do, matter of fact. So, MSLM or MSLYM would be Muslim, and SLMW would be silamu, and SLM would be Salam Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:11:24 GMT Abrigon Gusiq http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35700 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35700 What I was talking about is you can write Hebrew or Arabic and not need to express the vowels, since they are implied in the constonants.. SLM - Muslim or Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:02:16 GMT Phillip Wayne http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35699 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35699 Umm ... saying that the Semitic langauges do not have to do with vowels is like starfish don't have much to do with arms. The grammar for most Semitic roots is Sun, 17 Jan 2010 03:06:20 GMT Abrigon Gusiq http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35698 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35698 Going with the roots of Qyenya and like.. In Arabic and related Semite language, words like Muslim and Islam are the same basic word, but how used decided how Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:36:24 GMT asthiggins http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35697 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35697 Mike Based on Tolkien's writings I believe Aduniac and Khazadul were both influenced by Semetic languages - indeed he said that Numenor of which Aduniac is the Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:54:58 GMT Abrigon Gusiq http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35696 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35696 Elven languages, have much in common, or seem to with some of the Semite ones, so maybe look to them for ideas, need not be direct borrowings? Mike Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:54:03 GMT Andrew Higgins http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35695 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/35695 Suliad! Not sure how I lost my Elfing email when I changed systems but I am back now.... I have been "studying" Tolkien linguistics for the last 5 years or so