http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/ All Things Existential Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:16:26 GMT tom http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49766 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49766 Mary, I agree that a person can be philosophically solitary and remain in social solidarity. I included mystical practices in the modes of expression in which Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:49:02 GMT Mary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49765 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49765 Tom, I long for diversion, not transcendence. These expressions seem to me very human instincts and will, nothing beyond simply being human. One can be Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:00:12 GMT tom http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49764 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49764 Mary, Yes, this longing is dangerous, but so is life. I believe the deep yearning for transcendence is expressed in things apparently diverse as romantic love, Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:10:23 GMT Mary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49763 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49763 Tom, This statement is why I admire Camus, his sense of the absurd and his grasp of Nietzsche. We argue that this longing is dangerous. Mary ... But using the Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:35:42 GMT tom http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49762 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49762 Mary, The herd is a very appropriate word. I suspect that at least one factor in the term "alienated intelectual" is the historic fact that dogmas generally Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:11:20 GMT Mary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49761 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49761 But of course. They keep the herd in line. Mary ... I think a real good case can be made for the priests being the allies of the powerful. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:12:24 GMT tom http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49760 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49760 Mary, I think a real good case can be made for the priests being the allies of the powerful. For the long duration of the Holy Roman Empire, the Pope was the Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:41:49 GMT Mary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49759 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49759 Bill, ignore my oversimplification. This tragic incident is so bizarre and yet strangely logical. When people feel trapped, they submit or lash out. Fear and Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:15:48 GMT Mary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49758 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49758 The explanation from N still applies: the hatred of the powerless, the resentment of the priests. People would rather will nothingness than not will. Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:33:54 GMT William http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49757 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49757 It has become work to rest for me. Into the endless progression that takes president in a life it is timeless as you could trade any hour to another and notice Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:24:04 GMT Mary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49756 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49756 Unconscious to conscious. Unconscious to conscious. Each day waking and recognizing, adventuring then returning to comfort. That's probably when memories, Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:46:19 GMT vcgrfgy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49755 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49755 Message Alert - You Have 1 Important Unread Message! http://barbieal.zoomshare.com/files/sexygirl.htm Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:01:57 GMT William http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49754 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49754 That is where the rub is. The other has its place but the me admits more than I might like. Way back where your memories were born what made you happy? You Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:00:50 GMT Mary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49753 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49753 I don't think and write well this time of the day, so please forgive any incoherence. What I enjoyed about Bill's post was his attack on the robber barons vs. Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:03:42 GMT William http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49752 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/existlist/message/49752 So Tom has it. Did you really mean to do that. I think of an Iranian rural, standing in an irreiated field, surrounded with the bones of his people. He has no