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Re: Incremental design material (was YAGNI Football Analogy)

Kim Gräsman — Fri, 16 May 2008 10:00:40 GMT

Thanks for the ideas, everyone! I think what I'm taking away from this is that explicitly striving for evolvability isn't really useful. Rather, focusing on

Re: Incremental design material (was YAGNI Football Analogy)

Matt — Fri, 16 May 2008 05:49:24 GMT

J.B. ... ... This last bit has been ringing true for me lately. Any thoughts on speeding up the nuanced recognition or is it just time and experience?

Re: Writing tests

Marty Nelson — Fri, 16 May 2008 05:45:49 GMT

... and ... generated ... What ... It sounds like you need to test your code generation code independently of the UI. In other words, you need to have a

Re: Book Reading

Ilja Preuss — Fri, 16 May 2008 05:41:28 GMT

Oh, one important book is missing on this list: "How To Read A Book". Seriously! Helped me a lot to get more out of the books I read. Cheers, Ilja

Writing tests

Amol Jadhav — Fri, 16 May 2008 05:07:31 GMT

I've developed an application in which user edits some configuration and plays with GUI to generate code for Web service. Every time I have to run the

Re: Can I Stop Improving Now

Ron Jeffries — Fri, 16 May 2008 02:11:46 GMT

Hello, George. On Thursday, May 15, 2008, at 9:18:11 PM, you ... We need to remember that this isn't one person we are talking about. Gary tells us that the

Re: Can I Stop Improving Now

Steven Gordon — Fri, 16 May 2008 02:09:36 GMT

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:18 PM, George Dinwiddie ... I have been staying out of this discussion, mostly because the way it way started makes it totally

Re: Incremental design material (was YAGNI Football Analogy)

J. B. Rainsberger — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:41:39 GMT

... In my practice, I have observed that testable design is good design often enough that I can safely substitute one term for the other and I don't suffer. So

Re: Incremental design material (was YAGNI Football Analogy)

J. B. Rainsberger — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:41:35 GMT

... I read the great OO design books and nothing quite clicked, and then I spent six months refactoring a small code-base as far as I could refactor it, and

Re: Incremental design material (was YAGNI Football Analogy)

J. B. Rainsberger — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:40:30 GMT

... Others may know, but I don't know what to tell you. The four elements are enough for me. Larger design issues tend to be people issues, and when those

Re: Incremental design material (was YAGNI Football Analogy)

J. B. Rainsberger — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:24:08 GMT

... To "design for evolution" I simply invoke the four elements of simple design (passes tests, avois duplication, expresses intent, avoids complexity) and

Re: I'm Part Of A Crappy Self-Directed Team (was - Can I Stop Improv

Phlip — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:18:38 GMT

... ...what role play?

Re: Can I Stop Improving Now

George Dinwiddie — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:18:09 GMT

... I would accept the hypothetical person's brief complaint as evidence that the coach isn't being effective with this person. That's not a question of

Re: I'm Part Of A Crappy Self-Directed Team (was - Can I Stop Improv

Chris Wheeler — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:16:52 GMT

... Well, I think *I* know the difference; I was trying to continue the role play a bit.... Chris. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: I'm Part Of A Crappy Self-Directed Team (was - Can I Stop Improv

George Dinwiddie — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:10:57 GMT

... That's why I suggest you learn techniques /other/ than telling people the answers. Have you ever considered the AYE Conference? (http://ayeconference.com)