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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:49:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Perhaps it&#39;s the people who have maintained the building as separate offices and no shared working space over 20 years.  Buildings can change.  It always</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:37:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Craig Davidson</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hi Sean, I think going for great people over co-location is a good move. A long time ago, a group of smart people once agreed that they valued &quot;people over</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:13:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ron Jeffries</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hello, madbad.  On Sunday, November 8, 2009, at 10:49:46 PM, you ... The walls are all structural and built of concrete? Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com </description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the  discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:11:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Clive Evans</dc:creator>
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      <description>... When I was being forced into accepting a distributed team, I argued 1 1/2 times, but it was a gut feel. Is there somewhere I can find these figures so I</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:42:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bill Caputo</dc:creator>
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      <description>... The vast majority of card-based solutions I&#39;ve seen could be mounted on a cork board that could itself be secured (e.g. in an office). Alternately, you</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:01:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>madbad</dc:creator>
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      <description>... I think the rationale is more: if sensitive information is leaked, they want to know which small set of employees had access to it, so appropriate</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:50:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>madbad</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Not sure I understand. It&#39;s not any &quot;furniture police&quot; that keep us from having a team room, it&#39;s the well-meaning? architects who built the building 20</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:07:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>JeffGrigg</dc:creator>
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      <description>... And who is it who lets your compeditors walk through your office??? If your work is &quot;sensitive,&quot; then you need a secure area in which to work.</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:56:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Jerry Weinberg once told me that the people with the most influence over methodology are the furniture police.  Why are they in control? ... Get a &quot;pocket</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:40:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>madbad</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Software. The status (or specifically the status of each story) is deemed sensitive because it would tell our competitors which features will likely be in</description>
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      <title>Re: &quot;Databases&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:34:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>daswartz@...</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hello Sean, ... In 1999, we were beginning to build a relatively small system; our first XP project. We had Ron Jeffries in to mentor/coach us. We were all</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:34:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>madbad</dc:creator>
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      <description>... That&#39;s another impediment we face: no team room. Everyone sits in separate 10x10 offices. Can&#39;t effectively seat more than two developers per due to lack</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:01:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Sean Corfield</dc:creator>
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      <description>... Yup. Pretty much the best in their industry area. And the team did great work in a very short space of time. Could we have done more / better if we were</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the  discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:28:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ron Jeffries</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hello, Sean.  On Sunday, November 8, 2009, at 4:21:38 PM, you ... There is no mitigation that comes close. Teams use Skype, webcams on their desks, big tv</description>
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      <title>Re: Distributed Teams (was &quot;Cards&quot; (was: summary of the  discusion</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:28:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ron Jeffries</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hello, Sean.  On Sunday, November 8, 2009, at 4:21:38 PM, you ... Yes ... and the best figures for the value of collocation seem to indicate that it&#39;s twice as</description>
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