http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/ Fewest Moves Challenge Forum Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:24:45 GMT mirek_goljan http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2040 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2040 ... You still could have posted your solution under "unlimited time" category. Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:58:30 GMT david_thielen2002 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2039 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2039 Due to work and family, I haven't picked up a cube in six months. I had free time. Hooray. I'll try fmc 247. WRONG!! "How in the hell did I use to do this?" Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:47:12 GMT nansey_20000@... http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2038 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2038 Get Paid for Shopping and Eating Out! The Secret Finally Revealed -- "How You Can Get Paid $10 to $125 or more just to go to your favorite mall to shop, eat at Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:07:25 GMT Johannes Laire http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2037 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2037 ... No, the purpose isn't finding useful move sequences. As you said, computers can do that much better than humans. We do fewest moves solving because it's Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:46:50 GMT Greg Schmidt http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2036 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2036 Mirek, So then am I correct in assuming this group is mainly about efficient cube algorithms which are practical for a human to commit to memory? -- Greg Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:25:44 GMT mirek_goljan http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2035 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2035 ... Greg, solvers for Sudoku also exist. In this group, we are people who compete. Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:55:25 GMT Greg Schmidt http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2034 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2034 Hi, Since optimal cube solvers now exist, what is the purpose of this group? Thanks. -- Greg Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:54:13 GMT per_fredlund http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2033 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2033 Hi :-) It seems that Jimmy Coll just hit one of those lucky solves when he set his Official World Record (OWR) of 22 face turns. Just recently, in Nantes Open Tue, 12 May 2009 12:49:58 GMT per_fredlund http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2031 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2031 Hi ! You can use the fmc companion - online version - to remove x,y and z from your solutions. My fmc site uses the companion (indirectly) to verify submitted Mon, 11 May 2009 02:30:24 GMT cubist_youtubist http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2030 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2030 ... That's a nice idea, I've never thought of that before. I will try that, thanks! Wed, 06 May 2009 00:32:58 GMT mirek_goljan http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2028 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2028 28 is pretty good. I prefer not to use cube rotations in writing moves down at all. I found more convenient to associate letters L,R,U,D,F,B with cube colors Sun, 03 May 2009 14:37:35 GMT cubist_youtubist http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2027 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2027 I haven't done FMC in a while, but I'm back. I'm such an idiot. I submitted U2L'DR2L'UL'B2LBzBU2B2RBR2U'R'U'RFUF'UFU2F'U2R2 for FMC 239. I did not realize that Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:40:20 GMT mirek_goljan http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2026 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2026 ... All I can say is that I agree completely. The more qualified attempts you can make in a short time the more chance for luck you have. Mirek Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:19:40 GMT per_fredlund http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2025 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2025 Hi :-) Well, in a sense non-insertion solves are purer and harder to find in a short time - when very short. It is only my personal opinion that short solves Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:49:26 GMT Guus Razoux Schultz http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2024 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/fewestmoveschallenge/message/2024 Sorry guys, I ment the "Jimmy Coll scramble" gus Guus Razoux Schultz wrote: Hi Guys, I tried the "Kimy Coll scramble"scramble and found nothing "special" to