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    <description>Safer, Better, More-Efficient Transport</description>

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      <title>article: Fossil Fuels? Hidden Cost Is in Billions, Study Says</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:31:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>murdoch</dc:creator>
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      <description>Thanks to Paul Scott for pointing out this article in his excellent blog: http://evsandenergy.blogspot.com/ Anyway, here is the article. </description>
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      <title>Hi all</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:30:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>erictp80</dc:creator>
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      <description>My name is Doug. I just wanted to share with your group what Im working on. I&#39;m developing DI, Direct Injection or spark plug injector for cars that arew fuel</description>
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      <title>EV &amp; Hybrid News: Fisker Automotive to retool GM plant</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:21:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>usahiker</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12947</link>
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      <description>EV &amp; Hybrid News: Fisker Automotive to retool GM plant Fisker Automotive to retool GM plant to make electric cars Is BYD&#39;s Electric Car Ready for Prime Time? </description>
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      <title>EV &amp; Hybrid News: Chevy celebrates Volt&#39;s final pre-production run</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:04:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>usahiker</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12946</link>
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      <description>EV &amp; Hybrid News: Chevy celebrates Volt&#39;s final pre-production run Chevy celebrates Volt&#39;s final pre-production run Discord Over Regulation of Electric Car</description>
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      <title>EV News: Nissan Expects 20,000 Pre-Orders for Electric LEAF &amp; More</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:03:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>usahiker</dc:creator>
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      <description>EV News: Nissan Expects 20,000 Pre-Orders for Electric LEAF &amp; More Nissan Expects 20,000 Pre-Orders for LEAF Electric Car Getting Ready For Toyota Prius</description>
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      <title>The bug with wings</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:24:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Arcologic@...</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hello, Dave, The function of the wing: the concave surface (wing plus rear window) causes higher pressure at the rear of the car.  (Like the convex surface</description>
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      <title>The bug with wings</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:33:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Dave Cline</dc:creator>
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      <description>Ernie,I remember all your emails about that car. The bug with wings. And your mention of Pleasant Grove, UT was fun as I lived there for 4 years (2001-2005). </description>
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      <title>Re: was....CLUB LOOKING FOR SPONSORS</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:31:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Arcologic@...</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12942</link>
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      <description>Yes, Tallex, I do have some thoughts. First of all, it&#39;s very important to keep in mind conservation of  energy. Always ask yourself, where is the energy</description>
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      <title>was....CLUB LOOKING FOR SPONSORS</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:05:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>tallex2002</dc:creator>
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      <description>Several months ago on another list we were having a similar discussion on &quot;wind power assisted vehicles&quot;. On first glance the trailer toting a windmill sounds</description>
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      <title>Re: CLUB LOOKING FOR SPONSORS</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:38:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Forbes Black</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12940</link>
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      <description>Hi Ernie, Your calcs look reasonable to me.  I&#39;d tweak the battery weight down and the Cd up, but that would just be quibbling. Like I said, I ain&#39;t saying</description>
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      <title>Ooops, forgot the file</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:24:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Arcologic@...</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12939</link>
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      <description>Oops, forgot the bike and trailer file.  Here it  is-- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]</description>
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      <title>Re: CLUB LOOKING FOR SPONSORS</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:08:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Arcologic@...</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12938</link>
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      <description>Forbes said, Um...  Yes, a photovoltaic trailer which powers an eBike as  it rolls can work.  It&#39;s not pretty...  The trailer needs to be  quite huge and the</description>
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      <title>CLUB LOOKING FOR SPONSORS</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:52:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>davesmountainstream</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12937</link>
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      <description>I was kind of interested in the fuel cell usage, which seemed to allude to something that it apparently is not. I believe they&#39;re using a fuelcell in reverse.</description>
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      <title>Re: CLUB LOOKING FOR SPONSORS</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:56:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Forbes Black</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12936</link>
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      <description>... ... - A photovoltaic (solar) trailer/generator that will be  charging an electric bike or electric scooter as it moves ... No, not a sourpuss, just these</description>
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      <title>CLUB LOOKING FOR SPONSORS</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:32:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Arcologic@...</dc:creator>
      <link>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/future-fuels-and-vehicles/message/12935</link>
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      <description>- A wind-turbine, on a trailer, charging an electric bike or electric scooter as it moves - A photovoltaic (solar) trailer/generator that will be  charging an </description>
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