http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/ South Jersey history and the outdoors Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:19:42 GMT dcwoodell http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8078 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8078 I just created a photo album in the group (Johns Manville site), with (so far) a single photo of some sort of monitoring well just put in at the site of the Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:51:58 GMT Deb Woodell http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8077 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8077 That's why we need some lawmakers with enough testicular fortitude to come up with some sort of dedicated funding source, be it a new tax somewhere on Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:46:23 GMT kc2ote http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8076 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8076 I think you're taking this the wrong way. I'm not suggesting that the state borrow $400M for building senior or low cost housing or anything else for that Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:41:47 GMT Kenneth Sooy Sr. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8075 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8075 There is one other way of looking at it. Open Space saves a municipality money. Development, both residental and commercial do not carry their own weight as Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:00:53 GMT kc2ote http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8074 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8074 Well, when you put it like that, there really is no choice, is there? I mean, why not make it $400 billion and give the whole state back to the forest. It Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:40:33 GMT Papa Greg http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8073 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8073 I've read a couple post where folks have expressed concern over the individual cost of the new open spaces bond and, with New Jersey in a fiscal mess of Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:31:34 GMT Deb Woodell http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8072 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8072   I agree with these folks that it is a complicated issue. In some respects, it comes down to a quality-of-life issue. If you live on a dirt road, and the Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:19 GMT kc2ote http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8071 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8071 So dividing the overall tax burden by more taxpayers actually costs each taxpayer more than adding $400 million to the state debt and adding that cost to the Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:32:54 GMT rcrolle2003 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8070 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8070 Hi folks: The acquisition of open space for preservation is not necessarily a net cost. Although I would prefer on ongoing funding system to avoid borrowing Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:31:31 GMT kc2ote http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8069 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8069 I understand what you're saying. I guess I'll just have to get a second job to pay for my property taxes, tolls, sales tax and everything else they're going Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:07:11 GMT Barry http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8068 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8068 The problem is, land preservation (for parks, preserves, etc,) is dead in the water without this funding. For as long as I can remember, any time acreage was Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:45:52 GMT kc2ote http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8067 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8067 It definitely seems like a good cause but it's an aweful lot of money that the state can't afford. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:56:47 GMT epgmetadata http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8066 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8066 Good news. Well done Barry. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:54:55 GMT epgmetadata http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8065 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8065 Hi Barry Thanks for mentioning the Weird NJ Exhibition. I was again at the Noyes today for the annual Craft Show. It was a nice event. I wanted to let folks Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:08:37 GMT Deb Woodell http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8064 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttownsofsouthernnj/message/8064 That should be some of the * sites * .... And I'm a copy editor! eyard, at http://taphofiles.blogspot.com/ == Life is such a changing art. -- Dar Williams ...