http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/ The Goby group is open to all those interested in the study of gobioid fishes. Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:48:06 GMT Peter Unmack http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1785 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1785 Contact Michael Hammer "michael at bold dot net dot au" he is working on Australian goby genetics and will likely have some samples that he is potentially Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:39:24 GMT craigchargulaf http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1784 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1784 I am looking for samples of the Favonigobius genus, anyone know where I can get some for some phylogenetic/DNA analysis? Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:19:13 GMT Neale Monks http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1783 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1783 Very cool videos! Thanks for sharing. A general question: did gobies evolve their sucker-like pelvic fins in the sea or in freshwater? Does the fossil or Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:26:28 GMT James Pasola http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1782 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1782 Hi fellow members! I've very much enjoyed following this conversation. It's good to know that everyone has these ethical questions in mind while they persue Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:53:14 GMT JKY Poon http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1781 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1781 There is a long way to public understanding of the meaning and utility of the biodiversity thinking. But if this is true and therefore worthwhile, we should Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:51:59 GMT Neale Monks http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1780 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1780 Hello Helen, It was I who said that "taxonomy has moved on". And I agree with you, yes, that's from the perspective of the money. My PhD and post-doc were in Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:19:38 GMT Helen Larson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1779 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1779 hello I am away from my office and country (am using Brazilian keyboard) and reading emails intermittently. Have just had a fascinated read-through of the most Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:04:43 GMT Peter Unmack http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1778 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1778 G'day Neale ... I see your point, but I don't fully agree. Clearly though public education and appreciation are important points. Fisherman will often toss Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:27:40 GMT Neale Monks http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1777 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1777 Hello Peter, I agree 100% with what you're saying here. However, to play devil's advocate for a moment. One issue is that fishermen are catching fish to eat; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:57:57 GMT Peter Unmack http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1776 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1776 With all this talk about to kill or not to kill I think that folks need to step back a little bit and consider the broader picture. Many folks here are Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:42:34 GMT tony_nip http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1775 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1775 Hi, Gianluca and Neale, I am also happy to discuss with all you people. That's why I am still here. Thanks Gianluca for the new mail list and I will try. Tony Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:19:51 GMT Neale Monks http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1774 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1774 Hello Tony, Good to hear there's a consensus here. Makes this sort of discussion more pleasant. Forgive me for using the phrase "liberal democracy" in a way Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:17:18 GMT Gianluca Polgar http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1773 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1773 Hi Tony, there is a mailing lists exclusively dedicated to goby specialists (gobiidae@yahoogroups.com). For some reasons, this one is mixed and much more Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:17:17 GMT Gianluca Polgar http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1772 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1772 Hi Sarah and How, I meant I anesthetized them to spare their life. That was the plan... and it worked. No problem for the small size: it's only a matter of Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:04:31 GMT How Pang http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1771 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gobygroup/message/1771 Hi Sarah,   Here are some articles on using Clover Oil and other chemicals for anaesthetising fish.