http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/ A mailing list and resource for hiking, Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:22:09 GMT Joan Young http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47897 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47897 Greetings- This month is a meeting with a program, and also a hike. The chapter is trying to get back on track with meetings and programs. We have new Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:31:42 GMT Broken Arrow http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47896 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47896 Scott, You really have no idea what's going on, do you? You must suffer from some type of disorder. First, you have no idea who the people on the NCTA are. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:10:06 GMT Gordon Lachniet http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47895 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47895 First of all let me state that all of the bikers that I have encountered on the trails have been pleasant and really not a problem. Someone who comes up behind Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:46:39 GMT Edwin Morse http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47894 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47894 I would like to add a few comments to what Joan has said. I'm a member of the Grand Traverse Hiking Club (GTHC), I helped plan and build the reroute along Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:49:48 GMT Scott Chambers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47893 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47893 I agree that Lowell is primarily a local issue. But we're talking about a simple foot path and a few bicycles. Anybody who thinks the government ought to be Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:40:04 GMT Scott Chambers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47892 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47892 The NCT was created as a multiuse trail. Every mile that is rerouted with the intent of excluding other muscle powered users is another example of an Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:30:50 GMT sharkbytes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47891 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47891 I'm sorry, but I can't be quiet here. "a reroute near Hodenpyl that abandoned a 10 mile section that was open to bikes in favor of a foot only stretch" is Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:15:58 GMT amytys http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47890 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47890 The poaching by locals occurs whenever land use becomes more restrictive - this has little to do with the NCTA and more with the governing land agency who has Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:08:48 GMT amytys http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47889 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47889 ... Huh? I don't even think you have to be a member of the NCTA to help out on maintenance sessions. Everyone is welcome. ... Are you saying that the NCTA, in Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:58:35 GMT amytys http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47888 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47888 At this point, you're just comparing the size of your orifices - nice. Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:22:40 GMT Dave http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47887 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47887 You don't think you're an MMBA firebrand? The NCTA does not permit groups that oppose our desire for hiker-only NCT to have a say in what we do. Would you Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:06:21 GMT scott chambers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47886 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47886 I agree that Dave is indeed a firebrand.  I think that for cyclists in Michigan "select sections" of the NCT are indeed a very big deal.  In Michigan the Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:39:15 GMT Paul Haan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47885 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47885 Agreed. His is not the official position of the NCTA either... nor is any of my diatribe... I'm outta here! ... [Non-text portions of this message have been Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:32:11 GMT Dave http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47884 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47884 Paul, At least I am not advocating putting sticks into the wheels of passing bikes (like a different poster did here today). So please do not call me Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:22:58 GMT Paul Haan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47883 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakeshikes/message/47883 Dave- Nothing fringe about it. But dredging up the old email out of the blue is making an issue of a single cyclist on the trail is a bit, well, fringe. I