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      <title>Source code for the book</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:01:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>hrvojep</dc:creator>
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      <description>Hi, I bought the book and want to work on the examples from the Sniper Auction, where is the source code for the book? Cheers h.</description>
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      <title>Re: state machine diagram</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:40:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Nat Pryce</dc:creator>
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      <description>Maybe the internal arc should loop from &quot;refactor&quot; back to &quot;refactor&quot;, approaching but not quite reaching the &quot;write a failing test&quot; node. Although that is</description>
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      <title>Re: state machine diagram</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:35:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/382</link>
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      <description>Yes, the text makes that clear.  Perhaps the picture is not as confusing to other people as it is to me. - George ... -- ... * George Dinwiddie *</description>
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      <title>Re: state machine diagram (was: [TDD] incomplete vs broken)</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:18:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Nat Pryce</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/381</link>
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      <description>Actually the intention is that while trying to write a test you sometimes have to go back and refactor (on green -- hence the green arc) to get the code into a</description>
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      <title>Re: state machine diagram (was: [TDD] incomplete vs broken)</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:10:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Steve Freeman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/380</link>
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      <description>the intention is that sometimes you have to refactor a broken test to make the error messages meaningful before making it pass. Unfortunately, I think it&#39;s too</description>
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      <title>state machine diagram (was: [TDD] incomplete vs broken)</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:20:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>George Dinwiddie</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/379</link>
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      <description>... Irrespective of the quibbling on the TDD list, I saw the diagram http://www.mockobjects.com/book/figures/listening-to-tests.png and found it a little</description>
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      <title>Re: What is the current status</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:32:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pete Keller</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/378</link>
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      <description>... Sounds like a Christmas present to me.    8)  &lt;cue Snoopy Dance Music here&gt; Thanks Pete</description>
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      <title>Re: What is the current status</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:11:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>nat_pryce</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/377</link>
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      <description>... It will be out in November. --Nat</description>
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      <title>What is the current status</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:24:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pete Keller</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/376</link>
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      <description>When will we see it in print? Thanks Pete</description>
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      <title>Re: Minor typo in chapter 8 - Building on Third-Party Code</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:43:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Steve Freeman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/375</link>
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      <description>Thanks for helping out. I should point out that the on-line version is rather out of date and we&#39;ve nearly finished copy editing. Sorry for not being clearer </description>
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      <title>Minor typo in chapter 8 - Building on Third-Party Code</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:28:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pietro Di Bello</dc:creator>
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      <description>Other minor typo in Chapter 8. Building on Third-Party Code, paragraph &quot;Only Mock Types That You Own&quot;: To develop against *an* third-party API... Seems to me</description>
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      <title>Re: Introductions</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:15:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pietro Di Bello</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/373</link>
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      <description>Hi, I&#39;m Pietro Di Bello, I&#39;m a senior sw engineer, programming mainly in Java (since 1999). I follow and practice eXtreme Programming and Agile Methods since</description>
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      <title>Typos in Chapter 1</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:09:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Pietro Di Bello</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/372</link>
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      <description>Hi all, I think I&#39;ve found two typos in chapter 1. In the Testing End-to-End paragraph, the last statement is:The result is a more difficult release cycle than</description>
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      <title>Re: one last opinion.</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:16:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>aman kohli</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests/message/371</link>
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      <description>... what looks good on the screen, does not necessarily look good on the page. -- ak</description>
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      <title>Re: one last opinion.</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:51:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Russ Rufer</dc:creator>
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      <description>Another vote for &quot;emphasises neither&quot;. Slight preference. My second choice would be &quot;emphasises only class names.&quot; It *looks* nice, but I wonder how to</description>
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