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      <title>PING!</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:20:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Fish</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/810</link>
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      <description>... Hash: SHA1 Ping! (Having email issues. This is a test. Please DO NOT respond!) - -- &quot;Fish&quot; (David B. Trout) - fish@... Fight Spam! Join CAUCE!</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:54:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>laddiehanus</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/809</link>
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      <description>... When I worked at IBM many years ago customer data was confidential. Any IBM&#39;er responding to this would probably become an ex-IBM&#39;er. Laddie</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:53:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Dave Wade</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/808</link>
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      <description>I sometimes think that IBM invented the &quot;NDR&quot; (non-disclosure agreement) but I expect that any legal use of zOS, zVM or zVSE, be it within IBM or by a </description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:35:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Stan Saraczewski</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/807</link>
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      <description>You won&#39;t get a definitive answer here. ... The statement below is true. The statement above is false. ... From: vencain &lt;vencain@...&gt; Subject:</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:19:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jay Maynard</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/806</link>
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      <description>... The problem is that the authoritative answer can only come from IBM. There have been users in the past outside IBM who were authorized to run z/OS on </description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:31:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>vencain</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/805</link>
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      <description>Yes. My point was that telling folks to try and locate someone within IBM as to whether any of this group&#39;s members were allowed to run z/OS under Hercules</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:57:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Stan Saraczewski</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/804</link>
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      <description>&#39;User community&#39; ? Isn&#39;t that this mailing list ? ... The statement below is true. The statement above is false. ... From: vencain &lt;vencain@...&gt; </description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:53:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>vencain</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/803</link>
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      <description>Not to fan the flames, but if Scott wants to ask whether anyone running Hercules has obtained a license from IBM to run z/OS I think a simple response of yes,</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:27:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>somitcw</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/802</link>
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      <description>... &quot;sccosel&quot; &lt;sccosel@...&gt; wrote: - - - old notes snipped - - - ... &quot;I&quot; assUme that &quot;I&quot; can legally run OS/390 under Hercules.  For even older software, at </description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:40:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>sccosel</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/801</link>
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      <description>... You missed the point on this one.  I was trying to paint the picture that some people might be using Hercules to clandestinely run z/OS under Hercules with</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:12:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>somitcw</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/800</link>
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      <description>... Perhaps I was not clear enough.  It is up to IBM who and under what conditions they authorized people to run their for-charge code and where it can run. I</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:58:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Dave Wade</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/799</link>
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      <description>Scott, Firstly the rules have changed. The case was that if you had a P/390 you were allowed to run the software on the physical PC with the P/390 card in it.</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:28:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mike Schwab</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/798</link>
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      <description>People DO run z/OS.  Getting a License is the only issue.  IBM decided to sue PSI, and stopped issuing / renewing Flex-ES licenses, stranding a lot of</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:11:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>sccosel</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/797</link>
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      <description>Based upon the answers I have been receiving, I am not encouraged.  On the surface, this question seems fairly straight-forward. The designers of Hercules made</description>
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      <title>Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:55:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>somitcw</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/796</link>
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      <description>... I&#39;m not a mouth-piece. Call IBM.  IBM owns the software.  IBM sets the rules for their software. I&#39;m not a mouth-piece. I don&#39;t believe that IBM normally</description>
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