http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/ Hercules advocacy Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:14:47 GMT Harold Grovesteen http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/822 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/822 ... No, they did not destroy the software. They still need to be able to prove they copyrighted it. Particularly for older software. At one point Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:13:22 GMT Harold Grovesteen http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/821 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/821 http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1a.html http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92preface.html This link identifies that copyright protections were extended to Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:00:54 GMT dosvsoperator http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/820 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/820 Thanks, Jay! It is an honor to address you, sir! :) I did not know this! I always thought IBM owned the rights to these OSes and for whatever reason decided to Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:26:01 GMT Jay Maynard http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/819 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/819 (Please trim your quotes. Thanks.) ... They wren't released to the public domain. They were never copyrighted to begin with. Before 1978 in the US, anything Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:49:23 GMT dosvsoperator http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/818 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/818 Just one question: How then did we end up seeing DOS/360, DOS/VS, OS/MFT, OS/MVT, MVS 3.8j, et al. released to the public domain (Thank G-d and IBM for Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:08:55 GMT Dave Wade http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/817 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/817 ... hobby license would be a good thing for IBM, even >for their current products. I'm sure that many new people would be attracted to the architecture, if Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:09:54 GMT BruceTSmith http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/816 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/816 Hi Fish, I guess I agree with you guys, if we're talking about older z hardware, and even 390/ESA systems. But something like the 25 year old VSE/SP is a Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:28:56 GMT Fish http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/815 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/815 ... Hash: SHA1 (Thread moved from [H390-DOSVS] to here) ... [...] ... I think Dave has hit the nail on the head: the elimination of the "after-market" market Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:22:52 GMT Fish http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/814 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/814 ... Hash: SHA1 Folks, I'm beginning to become more than a little concerned about my inability to establish contact with Greg Smith. I'm beginning to fear Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:04:24 GMT Fish http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/813 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/813 ... Hash: SHA1 It has been reported to me that the donation link I provided in my email ... I've recreated the link. It's now: http://tinyurl.com/ycr3bpy I Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:39:21 GMT Fish http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/812 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/812 ... Hash: SHA1 DANG IT! Sending again with NON-BLANK SUBJECT LINE... (Sorry about that folks) ... Too late! I already entered it into my SpamGenerator Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:21:33 GMT Fish http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/811 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/811 ... Hash: SHA1 I am pleased to announce the release of a new softdevlabs.com product called HercPrt. In return I am asking that you PLEASE MAKE A DONATION. I Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:20:39 GMT Fish http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/810 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/810 ... Hash: SHA1 Ping! (Having email issues. This is a test. Please DO NOT respond!) - -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) - fish@... Fight Spam! Join CAUCE! Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:54:35 GMT laddiehanus http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/809 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/809 ... When I worked at IBM many years ago customer data was confidential. Any IBM'er responding to this would probably become an ex-IBM'er. Laddie Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:53:31 GMT Dave Wade http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/808 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/message/808 I sometimes think that IBM invented the "NDR" (non-disclosure agreement) but I expect that any legal use of zOS, zVM or zVSE, be it within IBM or by a