http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/ High Efficiency Vehicles Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:55:44 GMT Isaac http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2413 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2413 I believe schwinn has been. Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:22:45 GMT cclinkco http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2412 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2412 Is anyone working on a no fuel (gas/diesel) and no re-charge needed vehicle? Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:08:59 GMT smithgordon46 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2411 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2411 At the beginning of 2008 Pininfarina and Bolloré set up a 50-50 joint venture with the goal of designing, developing, manufacturing and distributing an Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:27:42 GMT saintmess@... http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2410 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2410 The best HHO electrodes at Platinum-clad Titanium (or Niobium or Tantalum) ... see http://www.anometproducts.com/products_platinum_clad_anodes.html Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:25:20 GMT smithgordon46 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2409 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2409 An Ohio company has developed an innovative electric vehicle for personal transportation. The single-passenger, three-wheeled NmG is capable of a top speed of Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:36:23 GMT Timothy http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2408 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2408 High strength (470,000 PSI) carbon fibers are used as reinforcement in high performance structural composites for aircraft applications, recreational and Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:51:59 GMT Greg Locock http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2407 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2407 ... Yup, uniaxial tow is often called graphite tow eg http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/yarntow.php Cheers Greg Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:57:57 GMT Timothy http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2406 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2406 that should read: and as you implied,  with carbon , you have to do a lot of engineering  just to get close to taking advantage of ANY savings in weight Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:46:41 GMT Timothy http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2405 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2405  graphite Greg? LOLMy point is it need not be anything more exotic then glass cloth and epoxy resin over extruded poly styrene... that's what I like to Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:30:26 GMT Greg Locock http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2404 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2404 ... Good point Tim. I have been involved in the design and build of a carbon fibre car, and I doubt anyone could make effective use of CF for one without a lot Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:17:02 GMT Timothy http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2403 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2403 I'd like to know who says carbon fiber is really that much "better" then just fiberglass??? ok it is a little bit higher on the strength to weight... but is Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:58:18 GMT Paul Schwiesow http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2402 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2402 Non-recyclable--that's an excellent point. The shattering to pieces argument I'm not totally convinced by, as it seems carbon fiber Indy cars do a Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:46:40 GMT evman354 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2401 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2401 More likely than not, the most energy effective thing to do with an existing steel body is leave it alone and use it the way it is, as it would take decades to Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:05:06 GMT rloftus52876 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2400 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2400 EVMan is dead on right about the unibody car thing. Any physical modification that you make to a modern car is likely to compromise the vehicle's Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:07:54 GMT David Spurlock http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2399 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/highefficiencyvehicles/message/2399 The problem with carbon fiber as it now exists is that when applied to automobiles, in case of an accident, it shatters, sometimes with very sharp parts.