http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/ HJMaterials/Methodology Sat, 04 Mar 2000 15:36:35 GMT Mahlon H. Smith http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/184 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/184 Prof. Crossan's replies to yesterday's posts bring this eSeminar to its conclusion. But in many ways it is a conversation just begun. Jeffrey & I would like to Fri, 03 Mar 2000 20:30:57 GMT John Dominic Crossan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/183 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/183 This is a second draft of my response to you, Antonio, sent with apologies to replace the former post. What happened was that I had dictated it to Sarah Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:22:19 GMT John Dominic Crossan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/182 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/182 As it turns out, Gail, I am reading your post after responding to Mark's. May I presume, therefore, what I said to Mark as background for my response to you. Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:22:07 GMT John Dominic Crossan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/181 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/181 Thank you very much, Mark, for emphasizing what I see as the rather appalling ethics of the recent Jesus Wars. One of the hardest things for me, in such a Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:22:00 GMT John Dominic Crossan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/180 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/180 In debating specifically with Dale Allison, what I have attempted to do, Antonio, is go inside his own arguments for a continuity of apocalyptic expectation Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:21:51 GMT John Dominic Crossan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/179 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/179 Let me begin by focusing on Paul and Damascus, Stevan. I am impressed by the fact that Acts and Paul both mention Damascus, but I do not accept as historical Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:21:37 GMT John Dominic Crossan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/178 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/178 I do not think Sukie, that I have very good answers to either of your questions, but I will do the best I can. I think that the arguments for a consecutive and Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:21:33 GMT John Dominic Crossan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/177 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/177 Let me begin, Jim, by repeating what I am more secure about: I am not sure that Jesus went up to Jerusalem often, I am not sure that Jesus went up to Jerusalem Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:21:27 GMT John Dominic Crossan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/176 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/176 I must tell you, Jonathan, that I do not find a significant change, although definite development, in my own understanding in the parables of Jesus from the Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:36:45 GMT Jeffrey B. Gibson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/175 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/175 The recent posts from Mark Goodacre, Sukie Curtis, Stevan Davies, Jim Crutchfield, Antonio Jerez, Gail Dawson, and Jonathan Brumberg-Kraus that have appeared Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:09:30 GMT Antonio Jerez http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/174 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/174 Prof. Crossan, After reading your definitions of different kinds of Eschatology in BoC I still felt a bit perplexed. You define Apocalytic eschatology as a Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:09:28 GMT stevan davies http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/173 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/173 Thank you and Jeff for arranging and carrying through this seminar. I'd like to close by asking you what it was that Paul was persecuting. Paul and Luke, who Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:09:27 GMT Sukie Curtis http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/172 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/172 Dear Dominic, 1. In _The Birth of Christianity_, p. 486, you summarize three points made in previous book about the Gospel of Peter roughly as follows: 1) that Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:09:25 GMT Jonathan Brumberg-Kraus http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/171 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/171 Professor Crossan, It seems to me that your current view not only of the historical import, but also of the oral nature of the parables of Jesus has changed Fri, 03 Mar 2000 03:08:27 GMT Dawson, Gail http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/170 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hjmaterialsmethodolgy/message/170 Dear Dominic, I have been thinking about and absorbing the dialogue of these past three weeks. Thanks so much for doing this! You've sparked ideas for