http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/ Honolulu Coders Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:18:59 GMT Hal Richman http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/880 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/880 I just purchased the head start series and it is quite good. ... From: honolulu-coders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:honolulu-coders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:17:00 GMT John Honovich http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/879 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/879 The book for the SCJP is by Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates, two of the most respected authors in the industry (they also write the very popular head start Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:09:41 GMT g http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/878 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/878 Hi and Thanx to all for the input on Sun's exams ... (for me it's probably a few months worth of review to digest it all) George ... PS: RE: This comment from Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:29:10 GMT Sam Joseph http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/877 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/877 Definitely spam: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22how+good+are+hotcerts.com%22 CHEERS> SAM ... -- Sam Joseph, Ph.D. Co-Director Laboratory for Interactive Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:41:34 GMT E M http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/876 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/876 Also in larger corporations you have to get through Human Resources or an agency first and HR will expect a degree and certification. You might not even get to Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:37:39 GMT J. David Beutel http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/875 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/875 Sure, learning Java is good, so if studying for an exam helps you learn then that's good. However, the spam that started this thread looks from a company that Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:22:27 GMT J. David Beutel http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/874 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/874 Thanks for chiming in. I'd like to clarify that I wouldn't categorically refuse to work somewhere that uses certifications. I just meant that I'd see it as a Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:39:15 GMT Seth Ladd http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/873 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/873 Russell brings up a good point. Studying for the cert exam is a very valuable experience. There are definitely parts of the language that you don't use, or Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:34:46 GMT Russell Castagnaro http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/872 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/872 Gang, As an old school Sun Certified Java Developer and now someone who hires folks to code, I'd like to chime in. In my opinion, its pretty short-sited to Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:25:12 GMT J. David Beutel http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/871 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/871 I'm a self-taught Java programmer too. But, I would suspect that a company that relies on those exams has no expertise of its own, so would not be the best Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:10:41 GMT g http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/870 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/870 Hi Dave, I don't want to compound bai.sara's wrong use of this site, but I'd truly like to know why you wouldn't work somewhere that uses the Sun exams. I'm Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:29:34 GMT paul_k_tan http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/869 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/869 Funny, I'm actually taking the SCBCD exam today:) the best resource for exam prep I've found is javaranch.com. At least for SCJP, SCJD, and SCWCD there was a Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:59:57 GMT J. David Beutel http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/868 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/868 I guess this is spam, but I'll comment anyway. I've never taken a certification exam. I don't think I'd want to work somewhere that uses them. Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:05:04 GMT bai.sara http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/867 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/867 iam looking to sit for sun java exams and was wondering how good are hotcerts.com prep for java exams . please let me know before i shell out $85 for their Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:39:35 GMT Seth Ladd http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/866 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/honolulu-coders/message/866 Heh yeah, it was Spring. And yes, I'm a rails man now. Although, the spring code is still the best code I've ever read.