http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/ IATEFL PronSIG Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:48:33 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/316 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/316 ... I use this aspect of English (i.e., a model of 'rapid connected speech') a part of dialogues/Cummins' devices. One, it's a step to get students to use Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:27:31 GMT http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/315 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/315 Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the iatefl_pronsig group. File : Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:16:27 GMT Chris P. Bluetree http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/314 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/314 Hi CJ et al. Yes, it is true that most students are not really taught to read, but to repeat. And even then it doesnt sink in too far. When i do connected Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:07:17 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/313 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/313 Are there any that relate 'pronunciation' to 'listening perception'? Looking at page one, I don't see too many that are explicitly related to pronunciation at Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:30:47 GMT Chris P. Bluetree http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/312 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/312 Drat! With over 500 workshops you would figure they have the decency NOT to schedule us at the same time! I am presenting on my usage of C=S+R, and the results Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:07:36 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/311 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/311 ... Of course ELT is part of that economy. But I'm trapped into discussing such issues with anyone who will listen, which is not very many. What gets me going Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:03:29 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/310 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/310 In other words, 'learnability' is one of the most important and yet largely unappreciated issues in ELT and FLT. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:51:58 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/309 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/309 ... I think the theory behind ELT in general failed to take in the fact that most people did not achieve 'native-like' skills in most aspects of language, not Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:15:56 GMT pronsig_mod http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/308 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/308 Hi all! The Japan Association for Language Teaching Conference (Japan's major ELT conference) is taking place on November 21-23. The conference web forum is up Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:06:26 GMT pronsig_mod http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/307 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/307 Hi Charles, Your description of the ELT economy applies to capitalism in general, doesn't it? Although I agree that the research on English as Lingua Franca Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:30:31 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/306 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/306 ... But don't you think that getting people to join IATEFL and the SIG might be one way to advance the cause, so to speak? ... I didn't find the research Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:48:32 GMT pronsig_mod http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/305 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/305 Hi, I agree publicizing IATEFL and the PronSIG is part of what this page is for, but ideally that's a small part. This is a web forum open to non-IATEFL Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:28:15 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/304 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/304 ... I think you are locked into trying to do this: 1. Get teachers worldwide to join and support IATEFL and its associate organizations. 2. Get teachers who Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:44:26 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/303 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/303 ... many lexical examples of both /l/ and /r/ in their various contexts in order to start to get a handle on categorically perceiving them as separate. initial Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:20:54 GMT literacyacrosscultures http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/302 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/iatefl_pronsig/message/302 ... I have been trying to explain what teachers should know in order to teach the two sounds (two sets of sounds). One of the hardest things to do is to set