http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/ IBM Retiree - Information Exchange Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:41:44 GMT orsonbear http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16155 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16155 Mea culpa. Just wait till we have to deal with quadrillions. :-o Wed, 06 Jan 2010 03:22:55 GMT madinpok http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16154 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16154 Yes - proposed medicare cuts are $500 billion. But not in one year. It is $500 billion over a 10 year period. In 2009, total Medicare spending was around Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:53:44 GMT Orologe http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16153 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16153 Orsonbear, why do you distort... it's $500 billion, not $500 million. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:53:28 GMT Orologe http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16152 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16152 More on the fiasco... http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=517004 ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:52:45 GMT hankharty http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16151 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16151 Orsonbear, I wish you were correct, and I was wrong, but unfortunately, that is not the case. I didn't need to exaggerate anything. The Medicare cuts are Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:52:44 GMT ibmretiree2006 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16150 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16150 And if nothing happens will Arizona now START accepting Medicare patients???? Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:51:49 GMT Orologe http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16149 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16149 It's $500 Billion, not $500 million. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:36:37 GMT Stephen D http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16148 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16148 In a recent article distributed by CNN online, the Budget Director cited "For example, $24 billion of improper payments in the Medicare fee-for-service health Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:15:47 GMT creepingstone http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16147 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16147 I believe the reason Obama wants all kids covered, pre-existing conditions covered, and many other ideas that sound "moral" and "right thing to do" is all Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:48:38 GMT Gary Brown http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16146 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16146 I really think the marketplace is responding to costly elective procedure(s) that are just plain too expensive for insurance companies and consumers: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:47:59 GMT gfretwell@... http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16145 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16145 In a message dated 1/4/2010 12:12:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, ... -For that matter does anyone think, forcing the insurance companies to cover "kids" on the Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:41:48 GMT orsonbear http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16144 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16144 Come on, why do you exaggerate? The number is 500 million, not 500 billion as you show. The cut is to Medicare Advantage Plan funding, not to Medicare itself. Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:12:08 GMT hankharty http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16143 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16143 Does anyone think taking away $500,000,000,000 in Medicare funding (to help partially fund healthcare reform) is going to convince the Mayo Clinic to change Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:52:48 GMT davanzo1 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16142 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16142 None of the plans before congress have taken effect so it is unlikely that they could be the cause of losses or financial problems in the past - which is what Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:57:46 GMT Gary Brown http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16141 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ibmretiree/message/16141 In the Raleigh area, remember the Cash Doctor! http://thestory.org/archive/the_story_209_Cash_Doctor.mp3/view http://acchealth.com/ -Gary [Non-text portions of