http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/ Joe Cell Free Energy Device - Researching the Joe Cell Phenomena Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:37:34 GMT robert_hull2001 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23037 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23037 ... Good of you to apologize...happens a lot with newbies. I make one reccomendation....do not take newbie as an insult... This involves a lot of hands on Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:56:31 GMT jgosscacc1 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23036 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23036 Hello Jim, Converting your battery Jim has broken a cog in my thinking gears. I was wondering when you flushed the battery to remove the acid and insert the S3 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:29:07 GMT Bernie http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23035 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23035 There's no reason that the timing can't be controlled from inside the car. They did it on a lot of older cars. Besides, that's a way downstream isue. First Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:29:55 GMT Bernie http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23034 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23034 What Dave found while he was here, was that the bigger cells simply put out a bigger field. My 2x Golden length cell had nowhere the field strength of my 7" Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:31:21 GMT Ken Ruhnke http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23033 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23033 Bernie......I"m building a 304 set based on the "Golden" values with 3.78" inner tubes (2", 3", 4") and 5.68" outer tube/canister with flange/flat top. I can Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:14:25 GMT Adrian http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23032 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23032 It is prett hard to get car that ran on the plug to run on petrol again. Joe "these two kinds of energy don't like each other". Ren never got one of his Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:10:28 GMT Adrian http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23031 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23031 Ok so this like the mildest shamdy in history right? About how much fuel did you find you used? Regards Adrian--- In joecellfreeenergydevice@yahoogroups.com, Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:05:06 GMT Adrian http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23030 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23030 Well, see how they are and tell us. I don't see the claim for seamless in this addy. They are cut with a bandsaw which may be a hot cut method even despite the Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:24:33 GMT Bernie http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23029 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23029 Ken, Joe talks a lot about waste spark systems, but never really says that they help or hinder the cell. Maybe you'll be the one to answer that question! Since Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:19:16 GMT Bernie http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23028 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23028 The cell we wound up using was the one specced by Bill Williams. His palns are on-line for DL. If you can't find them with a search, I could email them to you. Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:52:58 GMT boardofed2003 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23027 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23027 In the guide and many other places it is mentioned that a working stage 3 cell can and will stop working during certain times of the day, lunar cycles, Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:34:56 GMT robert_hull2001 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23026 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23026 ... Yes, it can be controlled...the point I have been making is that acknowledging that it is part of the processes that have to be seriously considered...as Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:32:29 GMT boardofed2003 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23025 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23025 Years ago at age 15 I used to build lasers. One of my laser projects was an organic dye laser. The design called for an eliptical mirror that covered the Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:16:37 GMT boardofed2003 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23024 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23024 I ordered these: http://stores.homestead.com/hydrogengarage/Detail.bok?no=17 They had one precut assembly in stock they said. Yes I meant cylinders. This is Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:05:27 GMT Adrian http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23023 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/message/23023 Did you mean "cells" or cyls? What gauge are they? 16g in 4" and 5" is bastard hard to get in the short lengths we use and seamless is even rarer. I am