http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/ JUnit, the Java unit testing framework written by Kent Beck and Erich Gamma. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:07:24 GMT Sunburned Surveyor http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22085 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22085 David, In this particular case your technique would work. I wonder, when testing return values that are slightly more complicated, if this would start to fall Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:11:28 GMT Sunburned Surveyor http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22084 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22084 Big Mike, Thanks for the info. I don't know that the system I have in mind will require any tweaks to JUnit. I think all of my code can run along side of it, Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:35:09 GMT Forsberg, Mike http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22083 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22083 You might consider extending/changing/refactoring JUnit itself using github. There you can fork JUnit itself and submit your idea for inclusion for everyone. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:26:39 GMT Sunburned Surveyor http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22082 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22082 Mike, I've never seen it. I am interested, but ultimately we are looking for a solution that will work outside of Eclipse. We are working on an open source Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:22:31 GMT David Saff http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22081 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22081 Dear Sunburned, If I write assertEquals("(1,-1,0)", point.toString()); and change the toString method, I get this (slightly garbled, but mostly helpful) Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:20:27 GMT Forsberg, Mike http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22080 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22080 Have you looked at how eclipse handles AssertEquals of two Strings. Not sure if this is a JUnit core functionality or not. But eclipse highlights how the two Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:16:45 GMT Sunburned Surveyor http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22079 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22079 I have a question about the options for gathering and displaying supplemental information about test failures. Please allow me to illustrate my question with a Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:28:31 GMT David Saff http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22078 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22078 ... Some (many) people have asked for categories as a way of running only some of their tests, and our primary goal is to help them. If you were ever tempted Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:20:11 GMT yme0987654321 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22077 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22077 Stolsvik, What you want (annotate some random class somewhere) isn't currently supported by JUnit (as far as I know). But what you can do is make a suite. So Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:27:23 GMT stolsvik http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22076 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22076 Folks, thanks for your answers. ... Could you tell me directly, or point to some resource, of how I set that up? Your sentence didn't immediately ring Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:25:00 GMT David Saff http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22075 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22075 All, I can see that a short code snippet has been misleading about what our proposal makes easy, possible, and impossible. I'll try to post a longer feature Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:29:13 GMT Bogdan http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22074 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22074 I agree with Georg. I prefer an annotation where I can specify the subcategories where a test fits. Something like: @Category( "database.mysql.local" ) public Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:50:27 GMT Cédric Beust  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22073 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22073 ... No, as wrappers of an entire test suite: BeforeSuite BeforeClass ... AfterClass BeforeClass AfterClass ... AfterSuite -- ***Cédric * [Non-text portions of Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:45:56 GMT yme0987654321 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22072 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22072 Cedric, That is what you get out of @BeforeClass and @AfterClass when you define them on the class with the @RunWith(Suite.class) annotation. It is the same Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:44:13 GMT David Saff http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22071 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/junit/message/22071 As synonyms for BeforeClass and AfterClass? David Saff