http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/ A forum to discuss the design, building Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:00:48 GMT paulfay2@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13901 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13901 OK Arnie, I have read all your articles but I am missing something here. You said - "On a big boat, over 10 tons, maybe with a high disp/waterline, it is often Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:15:42 GMT Arne Kverneland, Norway http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13900 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13900 Stavanger, just about Monday now... Hi again Paul In "my" files section you'll find a PDF-article called "The Cambered Junk sail". Somewhere there I discuss Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:55:44 GMT Arne Kverneland, Norway http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13899 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13899 Stavanger still Sunday here... Hi Gary I'll try to sketch up the boom shelf method as I understand it, one of these days. This method also has its fudge Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:17:40 GMT paulfay2@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13898 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13898 Hi Arne, I agree that all sails set on a mast are not the most efficient but as we will be spending a lot of cash we want to make the best of what we will have Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:59:34 GMT gary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13897 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13897 ... Arne, is there anymore information on how these Boom Shelves are cut and sewn together? Nice job on converting the dinghy. With that shallow forefoot she Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:24:50 GMT Arne Kverneland, Norway http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13896 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13896 Stavanger, Sunday Hi Paul I' wouldn't bother with too fancy details like perfectly modelling the luff shape. The junk sail ? or any sail are after all Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:14:20 GMT Steve Studley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13895 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13895 On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Steve ... I always wonder when I read these 'heresies' from you if your just trolling. Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:24:22 GMT Steve Williams http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13894 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13894 ... Mike Good for you, maybe we will finally get some unbiased information. I can tell you now that you will find very little in the current literature that Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:00:29 GMT paulfay2@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13893 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13893 We are planning on new cambered panel (quilted) sails for Ti Gitu this winter and after reading the article by Slieve McGalliard where he talked about the Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:54:03 GMT paulfay2@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13892 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13892 Thanks for that Tim. We think we will probably use the Top Gun cloth. A bit heavy but we have now recieved samples and like it better than normal sailcloth Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:39:33 GMT gary http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13891 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13891 ... Slight error there, it should read "without the need." Small error, big difference:D Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:12:58 GMT hartley_spindrift http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13890 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13890 I have friends that I sail with sometimes. They have a 29 foot Bermudan rigged yacht and before I read about the Chinese Lug rig I would have been quite happy Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:49:56 GMT jcuknz http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13889 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13889 As a basically simple sailor, though on a previous boat I did have my spinnaker in a sock along with jib controlled from cockpit, I had forgotten about things Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:59:53 GMT Tim Dunn http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13887 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13887 ... The only drawback is the weight and expense - heavier to hoist, and theoretically, at least, more heeling. If your sail is cambered, I suppose it might Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:40:05 GMT Mike Brzezowski http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13885 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/junkrig/message/13885 Again, I wasn't clear. I was still talking about converting from a Bermuda Rig to a Chinese Lug Rig. Most people in the world are unaware that there is such