http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/ Kagyu is for the discussion of Buddhism, particularly the Kagyu and Rime (non-sectarian) traditions Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:47:28 GMT Richard Menninger http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41934 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41934 ... This is a really good point. Sentient beings bring their confusions and tendencies with them. If they are inherently flawed, how can any of them teach? Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:08:58 GMT Richard Menninger http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41933 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41933 ... Well those things were part of what the wild bunch side of his students brought to the table as their working basis. Trungpa was much the crazy wisdom Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:54:26 GMT Kirt Undercoffer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41932 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41932 Yes but even many tulkus are not saints in a moralistic sense. Trungpa Rinpoche's use of unconventional behavior was personally perplexing to me for quite Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:47:20 GMT Richard Menninger http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41931 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41931 ... I don't know what "the party" means as I was not part of that scene after the late 1970s and did not do vajrayana with them beyond some preliminary Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:45:30 GMT Kirt Undercoffer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41930 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41930 Trungpa Rinpoche was not a saint (at least not in moralistic terms). He was a mahasiddha who's goal was to plant the seeds for the flowering of true Dharma Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:20:44 GMT Richard Menninger http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41929 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41929 ... LOL The reference was the "local" deity as in "local deity makes good beyond all expectations" when it was used in my reference of it, a takeoff on local Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:04:55 GMT katiemacintire http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41928 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41928 ... --oh i just had to open my mouth. apologies.If you're Nyingma like me, you know that "rainbow body" is specifically defined and can only happen in the Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:03:50 GMT Claire Marie http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41927 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41927 Ive been watching with interest the development of this line of enquiry and I cant help but agree with Andy.  If we delve too deeply into the 'questionable' Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:00:56 GMT honnahlee1738 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41926 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41926 Thanks for responding Lu. I agree with you about the New Age stuff being "mix-n-match." I've been a Buddhist for going on ten years, and I don't think that Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:25:07 GMT Andy McLellan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41925 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41925 Can you discuss the fairness of this censorship with the dean?  It does seem rather strange to apply this here and not to other subject areas.  English Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:21:28 GMT knlhamo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41924 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41924 ... I think it's because we are sometimes cautioned by our teachers to not mix and match from different paths, and also because there's a lot of mixing & Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:22:58 GMT honnahlee1738 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41923 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41923 Thank you, dorjeshonnu, but what's your definition of "different"? I liked the poetry of your reply. But why do I get the feeling everyone's telling me to Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:13:44 GMT Susan Law http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41922 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41922 Hi Cone - ... Another value to understanding other religions well, and respecting them is that one can provide support to people who follow those beliefs. That Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:02:33 GMT Susan Law http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41921 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41921 Hi katie - You said ... Could you describe this a bit more? I'm interested because before I encountered Tibetan Buddhism I was a Roman Catholic and for many Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:50:03 GMT Christian Fromme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41920 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kagyu/message/41920 Hello, It is telling a *lot* when people just see the one thing they think of as an error in a person, but at the same time refuse to see the thousands of good