http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/ Kaleidoscope Exchange Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:28:43 GMT pgreenhouston http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3433 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3433 Oh my! Yes, Dan! As a collector I would love to see the internals as well in book form or as attachments. They look like they come with different Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:00:17 GMT Tim Krause http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3432 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3432 Incredible! The condition is just amazing. I for one would really be interested in a book on antique scopes. Not just the outsides, but all of the little Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:25:34 GMT Dan Robinson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3431 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3431 See attachments:   Dollond Kaleidoscope and the Bate Kaleidoscope       See attachments: Dollond Kaleidoscope and the Bate Kaleidoscope Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:11:04 GMT Bill Novak http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3430 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3430 You've piqued our interest, Dan. I bet a lot of us would like to see photos and hear from you about what makes these antique scopes so special. -Bill ... Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:26:36 GMT SMITH Jacqueline http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3429 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3429 That is a great story Dan. Good luck with the book. Sounds like a lot of fun. Jacqui Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:04:30 GMT Dan Robinson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3428 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3428 Well today was  a big day for me.  I got a visit from Erik Van Cort.  Most of us have at least one old Van Cort scope among our collection from his many Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:01:36 GMT Tim Krause http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3427 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3427 Hi All, I would like to offer a Parman Brother's Cathedral kaleidoscope for any one interested. The wood is some highly figured maple with a great patina. Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:05:11 GMT Brett Bensley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3426 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3426 Back in the old days it was hard to search the internet. Then search engines came in and it was much easier. Now the search engines seem to mostly have links Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:56:11 GMT csbdb http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3425 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3425 Please read the discussion of Ptolemy's work on mirrors on the bottom of page 41. Without a direct translation of his original work, it is still left up to Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:54:33 GMT csbdb http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3424 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3424 Bill, The real question is what makes up a kaleidoscope?! If it is the mirror system, then yes, it has been around for centuries. If it is the mirrors plus a Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:52:59 GMT csbdb http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3423 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3423 My interpretation of the kaleidoscope makes me choose the chinese and greeks as the creators! Brett Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:50:32 GMT Brett Bensley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3422 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3422 Please read the discussion of Ptolemy's work on mirrors on the bottom of page 41. Without a direct translation of his original work, it is still left up to Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:55:10 GMT Frank Higgins http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3421 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3421 Here is another area (pics attached) where the practitioners might have benefitted from the kaleidoscope principle .Frank ... Prior to Brewster, many Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:50:45 GMT Kevin Kohler http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3420 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3420 I've also read both of those references. No solid references are ever provided, it seems. ... I've also read both of those references. No solid references are Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:32:35 GMT Bill Novak http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3419 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaleidoscopecollector/message/3419 That makes sense, Brett. But you're not saying, as Wikipedia seems to be claiming, that the Greeks invented the kaleidoscope. When I first started collecting,