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      <title>Re: Cost of delay</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:31:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Alan Shalloway</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6092</link>
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      <description>The degree of precision does vary.  Sometimes it&#39;s known (for example, past a due date it might drop to 0). Mostly it&#39;s to create awareness for comparisons of</description>
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      <title>Re: Releases and Value was Reporting Example, Minimal, Not Marketabl</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:05:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris Matts</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6091</link>
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      <description>Hi Tom I recently did an MMF which took about 6 months. To my mind that it is way too big a release to put in one go. As a result, we did several releases to </description>
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      <title>Re: Releases and Value was Reporting Example, Minimal, Not Marketabl</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:53:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Tom Ayerst</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6090</link>
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      <description>Hi Chris, Not sure I agree with this. Certainly all releases are risky. Are big releases riskier than small releases?  Not sure - they have been in the past</description>
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      <title>Releases and Value was Reporting Example, Minimal, Not Marketable</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:20:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris Matts</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6089</link>
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      <description>Dear All Re-reading David&#39;s post I realised that I had been making assumptions about other peoples understanding of releases and value. All releases should be</description>
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      <title>Re: Reporting Example, Minimal, Not Marketable</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:03:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris Matts</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6088</link>
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      <description>Hi David The concept is that you deliver based on value. You identify the value and then from that, the minimal number of features are delivered. In Joshua&#39;s </description>
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      <title>Re: Reporting Example, Minimal, Not Marketable</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:02:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Viktor Klang</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6087</link>
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      <description>... Ah, I was comparing apples to oranges, sorry. ... -- Viktor Klang ... Blog: klangism.blogspot.com Twttr: twitter.com/viktorklang Code:</description>
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      <title>Re: Reporting Example, Minimal, Not Marketable</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:02:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Viktor Klang</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6086</link>
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      <description>... So you&#39;re proposing that the Economically Viable Feature won&#39;t vary in size by several orders of magnitude? ... -- Viktor Klang ... Blog:</description>
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      <title>Re: Reporting Example, Minimal, Not Marketable</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:36:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>David Anderson</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6085</link>
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      <description>It&#39;s not the term, it is concept I don&#39;t like. MMF is not a useful unit from a flow perspective because MMFs can vary in size by several orders of magnitude. </description>
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      <title>Re: Cumulative flow diagram best practice</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:21:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ole Christian Rynning</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6084</link>
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      <description>... production =)&quot;. When it fills up we throw the feature cards in a dated envelope in a box. I agree with Eric that keeping some tasks on the board looks good</description>
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      <title>Re: What do people do for Value?</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:24:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris Simmons</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6083</link>
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      <description>Talk about trial by fire! A great way to determine what techniques work.</description>
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      <title>Re: [!! SPAM]  RE: [kanbandev] Re: An Insight on the Efficiency of K</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:33:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Dan Rawsthorne</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6082</link>
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      <description>Yes, that is my point, Alan. Yet you are using the simplicity of the process of scrum to knock scrum, rather than look at the totality. Basically, giving</description>
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      <title>Re: Cumulative flow diagram best practice</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:52:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris Simmons</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6081</link>
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      <description>... No it doesn&#39;t. Maybe I&#39;ll rename &quot;Completed&quot; to &quot;ready to be shipped&quot;. My team ships every two weeks - currently continuously deployment is not a</description>
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      <title>Re: Cumulative flow diagram best practice</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:31:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ole Christian Rynning</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6080</link>
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      <description>... To me it sounds like shipped is on the wrong side of done in your value stream. I.e. a potential bottleneck. Does a feature generate value before being</description>
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      <title>Re: Reporting Example, Minimal, Not Marketable</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:26:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Joshua Kerievsky</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6079</link>
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      <description>... Hi Greg, Aside from chartering, I think it helps to * focus on the valuable chunks of work * know how to complete those chunks via small pieces of</description>
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      <title>Re: Cumulative flow diagram best practice</title>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:56:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Chris Simmons</dc:creator>
      <link>http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/6078</link>
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      <description>... Correct - at least that&#39;s the way we&#39;ve been doing it before. We haven&#39;t actually shipped any items since moving to actual kanban &lt;2 weeks ago, so the</description>
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