http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/ Knutsford SciBAr Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:09:40 GMT Dave Thompson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1573 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1573 Now who said science wasn't useful. Dave T 07768-355-814 dave@... From Scientific American Strange but True: Turning a Wobbly Table Will Make It Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:16:05 GMT Peter Rose http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1572 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1572 Thanks Dave As ever The Telegraph has been selective (and other papers would have done different selections) in what it has taken from this report which can be Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:33:52 GMT Dave Thompson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1571 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1571 I know it's only a newspaper,Peter, but it tells you its sources-if you want them. .......... Is this because we have bigger things to worry about. What are Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:49:01 GMT Peter Rose http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1570 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1570 Folks I was sent a link to this site by my energy provider http://actonco2.direct.gov.uk/actonco2/home.html There is probably not a lot in there that Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:14:42 GMT David Skinner http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1569 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1569 Just realised I made an error in my answer to CLAIM 2. Although gasses ARE less soluble in warmer water atmospheric CO2 is currently rising much faster than Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:49:22 GMT David Skinner http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1568 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1568 Thanks for the genuine questions Richard. I sometimes feel that I'm putting a lot of time into this subject but nobody reads it. I've use PURPLE: From: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:17:01 GMT Peter Rose http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1567 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1567 Thanks Dave From my school boy chemistry carbon monoxide is poisonous as it is preferentially absorbed by haemoglobin instead of oxygen; carbon dioxide, Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:04:37 GMT Richard Buttrey http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1566 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1566 Hello David, See my comments below in red From: kscibar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:kscibar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Skinner Sent: 13 October 2009 11:52 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:56:40 GMT David Skinner http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1565 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1565 That's a good reference Peter. It might also be remembered that I posted a response 24th August with links to the actual measured Surface temperatures. These Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:11:03 GMT Richard Buttrey http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1564 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1564 I thought I'd added, but it doesn't appear to have come through, that the ST News Review site would not allow for simple copying and pasting of text, so I had Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:40:21 GMT Richard Buttrey http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1563 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1563 Ok, the headline in last Sunday's News Review, 'Why everything you know about global warming is wrong' will no doubt be claimed as being overdramatic, but I'm Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:33:26 GMT Peter Rose http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1562 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1562 The headline was *Average temperatures have not increased for over a decade* Searching for this in real Climate gave this article Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:18:50 GMT Peter Rose http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1561 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1561 At last we have a 'prediction' from the sceptics- to quote *Sceptics disagree. They insist it is unlikely that temperatures will reach the dizzy heights of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:08:35 GMT Dave Thompson http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1560 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1560 Some suggestions here might be worth a look. I ,personally detect less certainty among GW promoters.That doesn't mean that the issue has gone away ,but may Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:45:23 GMT David Skinner http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1559 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kscibar/message/1559 The thing that struck me about the tree ring revival was how it demonstrated the truth of David Denne's Guardian piece posted on 15/9/2009. The Guardian says: