http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/ leo-strauss Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:41:07 GMT Kalev Pehme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41893 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41893 Evolution is such a mess! Best regards, Kalev Pehme ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:39:03 GMT delv http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41892 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41892 Not to mention some species where only one female reproduces for the entire hive. Ray Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:37:03 GMT Kalev Pehme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41891 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41891 I can't answer your question, Mr. Valle, as I am not an evolutionist. Of course, there are so many species where only a few can mate with each other. There a Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:34 GMT delv http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41890 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41890 My Pehme, You forget that half of most species cannot successfully mate with each other. Does that make them two species according to modern evolutionary Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:28:46 GMT Kalev Pehme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41889 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41889 Mr. Kennelly, The idea that evolution takes place in isolated populations for a particular species as we find, for example, on a islands does not mean that new Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:36:13 GMT t http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41888 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41888 Mr. Pehme, You may place very great stock in the fact that speciation has been observed in only the most limited sense, and you may claim that its supposed or Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:58:25 GMT delv http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41887 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41887 Mr. Kennelly, Even if I agree with you that over time these things might be as you say; that is hardly a scientific law. Wasn't that where this discussion Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:14:07 GMT Kalev Pehme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41886 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41886 Mr. Barrington, The premise of your question is ridiculous. Of course, I accept that the earth has a certain age, and that fossils date to this or that time. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:04:00 GMT Kalev Pehme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41885 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41885 ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:49:27 GMT Brian http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41884 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41884 Kalev, You admire geologists. All these geologists you admire accept evolution. Find me a prominent contemporary geologist who agrees with you that evolution Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:09:04 GMT Kalev Pehme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41883 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41883 Mr. Kennelly, Gradualism is not a very good way to adapt to anything, especially in mechanical forms. What works very mechanically in a same size will fall Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:59:36 GMT Kalev Pehme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41882 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41882 I am second to none in my admiration of geology. If only evolution were as rigorous a science as geology is. It is not. Mr. Barrington, your notion that Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:35:21 GMT Robert Caster http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41881 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41881 They are much more fun when they are merely headbutting people. Best, RJ ________________________________ From: leo-strauss@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Kalev Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:29:19 GMT Kalev Pehme http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41880 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41880 It wouldn't be the first time.... K. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:59:58 GMT Aileen Collins http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41879 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leo-strauss/message/41879 Brian, I sympathise. Hand-ball goals are a grave injustice at a time like this. Aileen To: leo-strauss@yahoogroups.com From: brianebarrington@... Date: