http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/ London Birders Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:18:28 GMT Tony Morris http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13270 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13270 I think that Rainham get a mention in this: Natural World: The Wild Places of Essex is broadcast tonight at 8pm on BBC Two. Tony Morris St Margaret's at Cliffe Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:05:37 GMT Michael F http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13269 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13269 Morning all, Counted the Starlings leaving the roost under Wandsworth Bridge again this morning and guess what? The same maximum count again - c4500 birds. I Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:34:26 GMT Des McKenzie http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13268 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13268 Roy, Thanks for the additional owl detail, all very intriguing indeed. I'd agree with you that descriptions/accounts/photos of all national and county firsts Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:44:11 GMT Roy Woodward http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13267 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13267 Glegg just states that the Owl was killed and taken to a Mr E. Bidwell who identified it (and published the record the same year, zoologist p.176-77). Christy Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:21:04 GMT Roy Woodward http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13266 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13266 All three divers (B-t & 2 GN) still present this evening (Tuesday). Also at least 10 Black-necked Grebes seen in choppy conditions, 11 Goosander, 3 Shelduck Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:19:03 GMT Des McKenzie http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13265 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13265 Roy, Does Glegg mention who the collector of the Poplar bird was or any mention of whether there's a skin anywhere? If not, he missed a opportunity to Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:58:27 GMT Roy Woodward http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13264 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13264 It's interesting that W. Glegg published the 1877 Poplar Tengmalm's Owl in his 1929 Birds of Essex apparently without questioning the validity of the record, Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:46:57 GMT Des McKenzie http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13263 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13263 Nick, I'd certainly be tempted to add it in seeing as it's the individual that got the species onto the London list in the first place. It can always be Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:18:26 GMT onebluegull@... http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13262 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13262 Blimey Steve, don't wear a chesnut coloured jacket with a blue baseball cap anywhere near a res! Des. Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:29:30 GMT John Archer http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13261 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13261 According to a paper on Eskimo Curlews in the current British Birds, BOURC are currently reviewing all records of species on Category B (those not recorded Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:01:36 GMT nick_tanner@... http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13260 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13260 could be, I've got a copy of an 1893 map of the area, BbB gasworks are on it as is Abbey Mills pumping station, the land to the east of these was open country, Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:16:44 GMT Steve Spooner http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13259 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13259 I think you may be being outgunned by DEFRA these days, Des. This morning I saw an Apache strike helicopter fly over Walton Res then QE2 Res, bristling with Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:16:24 GMT Richard Bonser http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13258 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13258 Yes, cheers John. How could I forget the other duck with a potential Nearctic provenance. Surely reinforces those American Wigeons from being from across the Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:25:41 GMT Des McKenzie http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13257 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13257 A nice historic for your EIDB / Lower Lea Valley systematic Nick? Des. Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:50:13 GMT paul@... http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13256 http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/londonbirders/message/13256 That's a few hundred yards North of EIDB. Wonder what the habbo was like 133 years ago? Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange ... From: "Des McKenzie"