http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/ eDeveloper (Magic) Software Users Group Fri, 16 May 2008 04:15:51 GMT Heidi Schuppenhauer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129607 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129607 I'm not sure what the problem with Java was either ... but it seems to be very real, I don't think they made this decision lightly. They are trying VERY HARD Fri, 16 May 2008 04:10:28 GMT Heidi Schuppenhauer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129606 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129606 We don't have Fleet Management, but we have a system to maintain airplanes. It could probably be adapted. ... -- Heidi Schuppenhauer www.CabritaSoftware.com Fri, 16 May 2008 04:04:09 GMT Craig Martin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129605 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129605 You'd certainly need .net on the client Which version I have no data on? Don't confuse me with someone who has any official information :-) "I have always Fri, 16 May 2008 04:01:25 GMT Heidi Schuppenhauer http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129604 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129604 The problem is, that it only uses the colors and fonts that are USED. Typically there are a lot of colors and fonts that are not used, so those get deleted Fri, 16 May 2008 03:59:47 GMT kevin2000weber http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129603 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129603 Does the .NET Framework get installed on the Server or the Client? If it is server based then MSE gets around problems associated with client installs, but Fri, 16 May 2008 02:01:02 GMT Craig Martin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129602 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129602 Thanks, that's clear, yes I'd guess late q1 2009 ... That's new news, I didn't realize that development effort was so far advanced I don't actually understand Fri, 16 May 2008 01:47:30 GMT Keith Canniff http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129601 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129601 The Java version will be released in 2 months (for basically development purposes only) and the .Net version will follow late 2008 early 2009. They ran into Fri, 16 May 2008 00:45:48 GMT Roger Ross http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129600 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129600 Yes Roger ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Fri, 16 May 2008 00:39:48 GMT Craig Martin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129599 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129599 Got it, looks stable At least I can F7 from the program dictionary and run now couldn't with sp3 :-) Did I pick up the correct intention from the Avikam Fri, 16 May 2008 00:07:27 GMT Omar Lamin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129598 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129598 Other than having to pay MSE for this, I do not foresee significant pain. I believe you will have to export and import. Again, Ask MSE or your Magic Thu, 15 May 2008 23:58:23 GMT Omar Lamin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129597 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129597 I second. As weird as it may sound. We charge more for a conversion that is meant to stop at 9 than for one that is meant to go to V10. That is because when Thu, 15 May 2008 23:41:31 GMT Omar Lamin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129596 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129596 That is right! I don't remember why. But I remember that we made a program (prior to converting) that would have something like a 100 text objects on the form Thu, 15 May 2008 23:38:18 GMT Frank Griffin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129595 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129595 Could you elaborate on "we use name pipes instead of tcp/ip"? I think I know what you mean but I want to make sure. Thanks, Frank Thu, 15 May 2008 23:33:58 GMT Frank Griffin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129594 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129594 Rosie, Our server was in mode 80 but Magic 9.1 still had problems. Are you running the 9.4 MS-SQL gateway without troubles? What is the gateway version you are Thu, 15 May 2008 22:53:36 GMT Frank Griffin http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129593 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/magicu-l/message/129593 It has been a long time since I upgraded an application from version 9.1 to 9.4. What is my pain level going to be? Will the colors and fonts upgrade ok? What