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    <description>MarsDrive Mission Design</description>

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      <title>Re: Public Support- Do we need it?</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:21:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Clarke</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1204</link>
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      <description>Public outreach is essential, regardless of whether you are talking about government, commercial, or non-profit space activities. Two other points The OST does</description>
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      <title>Re: Public Support- Do we need it?</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:09:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>frank_stratford</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1203</link>
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      <description>Thanks for the response Terry, I had posted this same question in other places and got either an overwhelming &quot;No&quot; or total silence. This does not surprise me</description>
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      <title>Re: Public Support- Do we need it?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:46:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Terry Wilson</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1202</link>
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      <description>yes we do...perhaps not right away, but we do eventually need that sort of public support to get humans to Mars.  At best, we can get a handful of human</description>
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      <title>Public Support- Do we need it?</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:58:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>frank_stratford</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1201</link>
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      <description>While this is not directly related to the design I&#39;d like to find out what everyone thinks on this matter as it has an impact on the funding issue for all</description>
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      <title>To Publish or Not</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:52:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>frank_stratford</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1200</link>
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      <description>It seems that activity has slowed here so I&#39;d like to ask everyone if they think we should publish the design we have now, start getting it out there at some</description>
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      <title>Re: Crew Free space (again)</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:47:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>spacenutnewmars</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1199</link>
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      <description>Sorry for being in error the other day when I posted as I had only got through the first couple pages and had not gotten to the power per item page. I know</description>
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      <title>Re: Crew Free space (again)</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:00:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Clarke</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1198</link>
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      <description>That &quot;over-engineering&quot; as you call it, is based on hard-won experience. And the distilled principles, found in compendia like Larson and Pranke, also include</description>
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      <title>Re: Crew Free space (again)</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:59:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Terry Wilson</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1197</link>
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      <description>Hmm...isn&#39;t that the gold mine and the silver mine is what we&#39;re really after?  Oh, there&#39;s a book by G. Harry Stine, *Living In Space*, 1997 M. Evans and</description>
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      <title>Fwd: 445p 8/5 Update: Phoenix data indicates perchlorates on Mars; i</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:52:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Terry Wilson</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1196</link>
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      <description>... From: CBS Space News &lt;space_shuttle-aftercolumbia=gmail.com@...&gt; Date: Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:57 PM Subject: 445p 8/5 Update: Phoenix data indicates</description>
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      <title>Re: Crew Free space (again)</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:37:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Ronald Cordes</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1195</link>
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      <description>Gold mine! Well, &quot;silver mine.&quot; Let&#39;s not forget NASA over-designs EVERYTHING. But these are good numbers to reference in the absence of anything better. Ron </description>
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      <title>Re: Crew Free space (again)</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:36:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>spacenutnewmars</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1194</link>
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      <description>I think that it is to recognisable... Here is my take on just the first pages.... Vessel habitat area volume: I see that there are a couple of tracks for</description>
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      <title>Re: Crew Free space (again)</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:26:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Terry Wilson</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1193</link>
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      <description>whoa, nilly.  I googled for a reference mentioned in a couple of the captions and got the biggest hit of all time: http://msis.jsc.nasa.gov/</description>
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      <title>Re: Private Missions- Line in the Sand</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:18:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>David Willson</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1192</link>
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      <description>Thanks Terry I can assure you there are no NDA issues. From: marsdrivemission@yahoogroups.com [mailto:marsdrivemission@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry</description>
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      <title>Crew Free space (again)</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:55:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>David Willson</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1191</link>
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      <description>Sorry guys I sent the wrong pdf. I have attached the correct one. To assist in the general discussion and checking the mass estimates I have attached a pdf</description>
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      <title>Re: The Mars Consortium Approach</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:09:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Brian Enke</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/marsdrivemission/message/1190</link>
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      <description>Hi Frank - I&#39;ll send you some comments about the &quot;Mars Consortium Approach&quot; off-line. In short, I like your plan... a lot. It&#39;s a good, solid framework. </description>
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