http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/ Minnesota Politics - Archive Pre April 99 Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:07:03 GMT Steven Clift http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5573 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5573 Over the last five years MN-POLITICS has become an online version of Minnesota's capitol rotunda, hallways, and front steps. That will not change, but Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:47:08 GMT wittstock http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5572 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5572 ... Laura Waterman Wittstock Minneapolis, MN - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - QUOTE OF THE MOMENT- "If you want to tell people the truth, you'd Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:22:23 GMT Marc Asch http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5571 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5571 ... This is getting just a bit tiresome. The use of animals in biological experimentation has a long a distinguished history. As has the use of humans in Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:39:52 GMT Nathan Hunstad http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5570 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5570 ... True, they aren't like humans in shape or form. However, biochemically they are naturally, and it can even be improved. We can give mice the immune Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:36:55 GMT wittstock http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5569 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5569 ... In case you have not heard editions of the "Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy," (BBC) I highly recommend it. In it, the lab rat's point of view is exposed. Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:09:22 GMT James Kiffmeyer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5568 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5568 ... has ... Ah yes, the old "the decision has already been made" proof, it gets me every time. I always forget that after some "expert" decides something that Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:20:06 GMT David Thune http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5567 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5567 The point was made that there is a difference between opposing animal cruelty and advocating animals as "furry humans". It is insulting to individual humans Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:04:06 GMT Dan Rosenberg http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5566 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5566 Although, people do act like animals sometimes. If you were to watch tv sit coms you would think we were all horney dogs in heat and had no choice but to hop Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:44:31 GMT Dan Rosenberg http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5565 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5565 Regarding the ALF, all I can say is if I were a black man I would be greatly offended. For AFL spokesman, Kevin Kjonaas to compare the plight of a lab rat to Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:16:39 GMT Joel Johnson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5564 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5564 Ben Thompson wrote: OH, Laura: Please don't start this nonsense that we are all related to (or descended from) the animals. True science has never even come Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:12:52 GMT Ben Thompson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5563 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5563 OH, Laura: Please don't start this nonsense that we are all related to (or descended from) the animals. True science has never even come close to proving such Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:52:27 GMT Mitch Berg http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5562 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5562 ... Vide Phyllis Kahn. Mitch Berg Humanware Design - http://www.humanwaredesign.com/ (651)644-4192 User Interface Design, Usability Analysis and Information Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:33:23 GMT wittstock http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5561 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5561 -- ... Fortunately the decision on whether we are related to animals or not has already been made. So that point does not need to be debated. It's a heck of a Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:04:50 GMT Roy Neal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5560 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5560 Hi David, I wanted to throw my 2 cents into this discussion. ... This is begining to sound like the "quality of life" debates from last fall. The "river" is Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:20:08 GMT James Kiffmeyer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5559 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mn-politics/message/5559 ... are ... Closely related? Animal rights are human rights??? Our only relation to animals is our Creator. "Experts" may suggest that there is some