http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/ ms-remedy Sat, 02 Nov 2002 03:39:38 GMT Steve Waldman http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/162 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/162 Judge Kollar-Kotelly deserves praise for issuing an opinion that is quite readable, even to non-lawyers [1]. Her reasoning and point of view are quite clear. Mon, 04 Mar 2002 00:47:50 GMT Steve Waldman http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/161 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/161 Here are a few, quick and dirty notes in rebuttal, to the Department of Justice's (awful) response to Tunney Act Comments. I hope it is of interest to Fri, 01 Mar 2002 01:57:05 GMT Dan Kegel http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/160 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/160 http://www.kegel.com/remedy/ now links to the Second Revised Proposed Final Judgment, and to government's reaction to all the public comments. - Dan Fri, 22 Feb 2002 00:49:58 GMT Dan Frumin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/159 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/159 Karl / Dan / et. Al, ... Karl, I believe your interpretation of this clause is very limited and simplistic compared to the simple arguments that the OEM can Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:13:32 GMT Dan Kegel http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/158 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/158 Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:37:07 GMT Dan Kegel http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/157 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/157 ... I think I skimmed over them in my previous message because there seems to be abundant prior art to invalidate them. Those claims appear to be on Fri, 08 Feb 2002 18:23:36 GMT Dan Frumin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/156 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/156 Sorry to disagree my friend. There are plenty of method claims in there that are implementation independent. I include a number of the generic ones below. A Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:28:42 GMT Dan Kegel http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/155 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/155 To recap: Microsoft's patent 06223207 deals with I/O completion ports, and I'd like to know if you implement the Win32 api without infringing it. (In other Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:58:33 GMT Dan Frumin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/154 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/154 As you're reading, I'll use my tried and true patent example: Amazon's 1-click shopping. They patented a method whereby a single user action results in the Fri, 08 Feb 2002 06:55:32 GMT Dan Kegel http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/153 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/153 I downloaded the full text of the patent from http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/srchnum.htm and will read it for the next week or so :-) - Dan Fri, 08 Feb 2002 02:47:38 GMT Dan Frumin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/152 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/152 Ok, I just did a quick scan at the API. It seems to me (at first glance) that any implementaiton of GetQueuedCompletionStatus and PostQueuedCompletionStatus Fri, 08 Feb 2002 02:06:44 GMT Dan Kegel http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/151 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/151 ... Well, yes. But let's be brave and try. ... What I was trying to say is that you can change the behavior without changing the interface, and it should work Fri, 08 Feb 2002 02:02:30 GMT Dan Frumin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/150 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/150 To be honest, I don't know the particular api this is used in, but I would be cautious about making assumptions on what would / wouldn't violate a patent. Fri, 08 Feb 2002 01:24:46 GMT Dan Kegel http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/149 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/149 Here's a patent on I/O completion ports, a feature of the win32 api: http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06223207__ It looks like the claims are on how the Sat, 02 Feb 2002 04:39:16 GMT Seth Johnson http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/148 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ms-remedy/message/148 (Forwarded from Telecom Regulation & the Internet list, CYBERTELECOM-L@...) ... Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:07:53 -0800 From: Robert Cannon