http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/ "There is nothing out there" Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:58:07 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5506 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5506 As long as you pay attention to ideas, your own or of others, you will be in trouble. But if you disregard all teachings, all books, anything out into words Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:33:07 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5505 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5505 That which you are, your true self, you love it, and whatever you do, you do for your own happiness. To find it, to know it, to cherish it is your basic urge. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:31:36 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5504 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5504 Who is the Guru, after all? He who knows the state in which there is neither the world nor the thought of it, he is the Supreme Teacher. To find him means to Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:54:37 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5503 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5503 You have never moved away from perfection. All idea of self-improvement is conventional and verbal. As the sun knows not darkness, so does the self know not Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:15:42 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5502 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5502 ... P.S. 'what is' ('the Self')... is a pre-verbal child. Clinging tightly to *its* child, 'the mind'. It just has to learn that it's OK to be alone. Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:05:59 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5501 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5501 Poster posts the following: I've been jabbering a lot lately about whittling down the number of people in the head to one, which seems like a useful step Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:49:22 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5500 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5500 There would have to be two of us, for me to be able to hide from you. There would also have to be two of us, for me to be able to be visible to you. Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:36:25 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5499 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5499 If there's a "real Phil", why does Tim see him differently than Marie does? And Marie see him differently than Barbara does? And Barbara see him differently Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:26:31 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5498 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5498 ... In my view, they do not, and this is purely an illusion. One's own interpretation of words, and the thoughts that arise in response, "define the context". Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:39:19 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5497 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5497 ... How do you know what "having a self" feels like, if you have no contrast against a feeling of "not having a self"? How would you know that 'what's here, Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:32:47 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5496 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5496 ... Here's another clue: If it's "subjective" for everyone, if nobody has ever managed to "step out" of their body/mind and see things objectively, then: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:27:59 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5495 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5495 ... Only if 'reality' is taken to be objective (hint -- it isn't). Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:23:12 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5494 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5494 ... The way I see it, we aren't actually operating 'in relationship' with each other, but 'in parallel to' each other. In other words, life is one, speaking in Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:46:35 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5493 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5493 This is a search in which one can drive themselves crazy, insane, trying to find something. *You already have it*. "But I can't just go back to ordinary life", Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:49:45 GMT Tim G. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5492 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/omkaradatta/message/5492 ... Words aren't going to convey this. From here, it's about noticing that everything is "the subjectivity of the perceiver" (so to speak), including the words