http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ontariograpes/ ontariograpes Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:49:35 GMT Michel White http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ontariograpes/message/2 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ontariograpes/message/2 Hi, I saw your post at the other group but thought I'd send you a message here... Have you been to Larry Paterson's website at http://www.littlefatwino.com