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      <title>PDF as Container - some thoughts</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:06:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Leonard Rosenthol</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/70</link>
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      <description>... Here is a VERY quick synopsis of my &quot;PDF Internals&quot; class that I offer to customers. File Format ... PDF files consists of four parts - Header, Body, XRef</description>
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      <title>Re: [openreader-format] Re: Orca design document</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:51:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bill Janssen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/69</link>
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      <description>... That can be fixed :-). Bill</description>
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      <title>Re: [openreader-format] Re: PDF as &quot;open format&quot;...</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:23:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Leonard Rosenthol</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/68</link>
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      <description>... No multimedia support for PDF/A-2, sorry.  We are discussing a PDF/A-3 that may incorporate live content (multimedia, 3D, etc.), but not there yet. The</description>
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      <title>Re: PDF as &quot;open format&quot;...</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:58:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Noring</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/67</link>
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      <description>... Congratulations! When you next see Steve, ask him about the conversation we had (it was a while back.) Since then we&#39;ve made a lot of progress in better </description>
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      <title>Re: PDF as &quot;open format&quot;...</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:47:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Leonard Rosenthol</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/66</link>
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      <description>... Yes, I know Steve well.  In fact, he just appointed me to author the next generation PDF/A work (PDF/A-2)...which I&#39;m in the midst of writing up... ... </description>
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      <title>Re: PDF as &quot;open format&quot;...</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:33:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Noring</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/65</link>
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      <description>... Er, I apologize. I did not have you in mind when I made the above comment. &lt;smile/&gt; Your input to openreader-format has been excellent and much </description>
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      <title>PDF as &quot;open format&quot;...</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:10:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Leonard Rosenthol</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/64</link>
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      <description>... I know you said this just to irk me, Jon - so I&#39;ll play along ;). I would argue that PDF is MUCH MORE open that Zip, in that there are currently 4 ISO</description>
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      <title>Re: Orca design document</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:58:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Noring</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/63</link>
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      <description>[Bill&#39;s message was posted only to OR-devel, adding OR-format.] ... This is a good point -- although using the word &#39;hokey&#39; is a little extreme. &lt;smile/&gt;. On</description>
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      <title>Re: Orca design document</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:10:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bill Janssen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/62</link>
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      <description>... &quot;Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, yet swallow a camel.&quot; This strikes me as the hokiest of hokey criteria.  You&#39;re already creating a format which</description>
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      <title>Re: Orca design document</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:37:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Lee Passey</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/61</link>
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      <description>Yes! Someone is finally starting to get what I&#39;ve been trying to say! ... This is _exactly_ what I&#39;m looking for. I believe that, like OpenOffice, one of our</description>
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      <title>Re: [openreader-format] Re: [openreader-devel] Re: Orca design docu</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:06:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bill Janssen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/60</link>
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      <description>... Lee, this is all a bit like claiming that camels don&#39;t &lt;verb&gt; because you&#39;ve exhaustively searched a number of fine arts museums, and haven&#39;t found a camel</description>
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      <title>Re: [openreader-format] Another aspect of the ZIP/MIME discussion: </title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:59:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bill Janssen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/59</link>
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      <description>... Some will see only what they want to see... Just for starters, each part can be explicitly tagged with information about languages, character sets,</description>
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      <title>Re: [openreader-format] Re: Orca design document</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:13:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bill Janssen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/58</link>
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      <description>... For indexing parts, I wouldn&#39;t do it that way.  Assuming a MIME multipart format, I&#39;d just add a Content-Length header to each part, so that you could use</description>
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      <title>Another aspect of the ZIP/MIME discussion: file checksums</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:41:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jon Noring</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/57</link>
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      <description>Another important issue when we talk about how to encapsulate one or more OpenReader Publications (note that we will allow multiple ORPs in a single </description>
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      <title>Re: [openreader-format] Re: [openreader-devel] Re: Orca design docu</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:04:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Lee Passey</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/openreader-devel/message/56</link>
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      <description>... At Brady Duga&#39;s suggestion I downloaded the eBook Publisher from eBook Technologies, and used that to create what is purportedly an Open EBook File Format</description>
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