http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/ This list is for slow readings of Plato's Timaeus Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:47:02 GMT Mr. Christopher Planeaux, A.B., M.Phil. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/895 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/895 ... I am not sure what is at issue here. Sokrates' uses LOGO/J at 27a1. ... I am furthermore not sure this either supports or negates any specific position. It Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:56:26 GMT George Gregory http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/894 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/894 Hi Dan, [snip] CSP ... GG ... One answer that can be derived from the *Republic* itself is that, were the *Republic* repeatable, the content of what could be Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:25:51 GMT Dan Foley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/893 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/893 Hi George, Hello Dan, Hi Christopher, Just back from vacation and find you into some fine matters. [snip] ... It seems to be, Christopher, can you are Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:43:53 GMT Dan Foley http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/892 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/892 Dear Mr. Planeaux, ... From: Mr. Christopher Planeaux, A.B., M.Phil. To: plato-timaeus@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:05 AM Subject: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:02:10 GMT George Gregory http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/891 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/891 Yes and the citation should serve as a cautioning moment to appreciate the Homeric tradition upon which I agree Plato drew. In this case, the citation is Sun, 27 Aug 2006 06:29:00 GMT Thomas H. Chance http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/890 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/890 ... "Why tell the rest of this story again, since yesterday in your house I told it to you and your majestic wife? It is hateful to me to tell a story over Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:36:59 GMT George Gregory http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/889 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/889 ... Let us start to quibble. It might be fruitful. Suppose a contemporary of Socrates or of Plato came to either of them equipped with the full palette of Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:37:57 GMT Mr. Christopher Planeaux, A.B., M.Phil. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/888 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/888 ... Yessir. I am just wired that way -- while I certainly would quibble with how you appear to quantify this position as seemingly near an outright Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:48:09 GMT Mr. Christopher Planeaux, A.B., M.Phil. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/887 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/887 ... wrote: [snip] ... A good point. I have since, I hope, clarified my (original) objection and subsequent position here. We have, in essence, levels of Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:35:50 GMT George Gregory http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/886 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/886 Hi again, ... I know, this is not the *Republic* list. I suggest to Christopher, however, that he is making the dubious -- at least debatable -- assumption Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:28:27 GMT George Gregory http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/885 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/885 Hello Dan, Hi Christopher, Just back from vacation and find you into some fine matters. ... Christopher, when you say "Platon presents Sokrates as relating the Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:06:37 GMT jwubnig@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/884 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/884 Dear Christopher, The way the characters behave in Plato's dialogues is part of the meaning of the dialogues. The audience for The Republic, I think, is anyone Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:16:09 GMT Mr. Christopher Planeaux, A.B., M.Phil. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/883 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/883 Another short blurb, before I start-up this morning .. ... wrote: [snip] ... I opine we have several issues swirling around here: 1) the telling of the story Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:20:59 GMT jwubnig@... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/882 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/882 Comment over a month later! When Socrates says that in the Ideal State the style of the stories told the children should be narrative and not imitative, the Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:06:53 GMT Mr. Christopher Planeaux, A.B., M.Phil. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/881 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/plato-timaeus/message/881 I have time to respond only to some initial observations. I should be able to respond to others later ... ... ... that Platon writes of Sokrates speaking.