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    <title>rest-discuss at Yahoo! Groups</title>
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    <description>The REST Architectural Style List</description>

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      <title>Re: conneg considered harmful</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 04:12:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Glenn Block</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19454</link>
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      <description>Hello folks, been a long time! A very interesting and educational discussion indeed. Previously I have pushed quite heavily the support of server-driven</description>
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      <title>Re: Redirect Without Changing URI</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 21:23:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Erik Mogensen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19453</link>
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      <description>... Pardon my not answering the question, but wouldn&#39;t two rooms have two different URIs even though they have the same contents? e.g. /room/red has &lt;link</description>
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      <title>Redirect Without Changing URI</title>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:41:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Shea Levy</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19452</link>
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      <description>Hi all, I recently ran into a situation where I had several pages that had the same content, but represented different states in the application due to where</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 04:25:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eric J. Bowman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19451</link>
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      <description>My other takeaway would be to use PUT to initiate the transaction -- the URL being provided with the confirmation of the purchase, and the method chosen</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 04:04:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eric J. Bowman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19450</link>
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      <description>... I agree with Roy about POST lacking visibility, but agree with your point that this is no reason to throw the &quot;REST&quot; of the style to the breeze when using</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 03:50:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eric J. Bowman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19449</link>
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      <description>... I think &quot;stateful&quot; is exactly what Roy meant but didn&#39;t want to say; why else point out that the concern should be what properties are _lost_ by</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 03:49:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Eric J. Bowman</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19448</link>
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      <description>... I&#39;d say that how RESTful it is, depends entirely on the ubiquity of the media type used (text/html good, application/vnd.order&#43;xml bad), and depends on at</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 13:30:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Matt McClure</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19447</link>
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      <description>... &quot;Representation by reference&quot; is a great label. Thanks for the link to the old post. And Mike A., thanks for your example shopping cart solutions. -- Matt</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 04:34:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Mark Baker</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19446</link>
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      <description>On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Jan Algermissen ... Yah, I never did follow up to that. I had to take time to think about it, then forgot to respond. I</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 18:49:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>mike amundsen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19445</link>
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      <description>a _representation_ of the contents of the shopping cart should be shipped from the client to the server when checking out. there are lots of ways to represent</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 18:38:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jan Algermissen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19444</link>
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      <description>... My line of thought, too. Until this thread: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/18998 Since then I try to follow Roy&#39;s advice. Jan</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 18:30:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bob Haugen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19443</link>
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      <description>... That was my position in the argument with Mark Baker that I lost. When I say &quot;I lost&quot;, I decided I agreed with Mark that to be stateless and</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 18:27:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Matt McClure</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19442</link>
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      <description>... I&#39;ve also been following this conversation as a lurker. If I understood some of the earlier comments, it sounded as though someone made a case that a</description>
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      <title>Re: the meaning of stateless</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 13:43:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Bob Haugen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19441</link>
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      <description>... I hesitated to get back into this issue after having lost an argument with Mark Baker about it a couple of years ago, but:  the typical behavior of a</description>
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      <title>Re: Examples of Async Restful services</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 11:56:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jan Algermissen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/19440</link>
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      <description>... Well, it *is* a constraint of REST - see section 5.1.3. However, I agree that you can add pubsub to REST (i.e. WATCH in Waka). So I was wrong there. Jan</description>
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