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      <title>Re: Appropriate status code when creating a lock fails?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:23:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Subbu Allamaraju</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13085</link>
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      <description>Leaving aside the question of whether pessimistic locking over the web is a good or bad, I would expect a lock at the end of this operation. This of course,</description>
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      <title>Re: Appropriate status code when creating a lock fails?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:10:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jan Algermissen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13084</link>
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      <description>... Because it is (currently) a requirement of the owners of the system to use a pessimistic locking strategy, IOW, not HTTPs conditional write approach with</description>
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      <title>Re: Appropriate status code when creating a lock fails?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:04:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Subbu Allamaraju</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13083</link>
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      <description>Just curious - why would the server want to offer such a functionality as locking to its clients? Subbu</description>
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      <title>Re: Resources with read-only and read-write parts</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:04:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Subbu Allamaraju</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13082</link>
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      <description>Representations in a request (e.g. PUT or POST) and representations in a response (e.g. GET or a PUT) need not be absolutely the same. HTTP servers are not</description>
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      <title>Re: Appropriate status code when creating a lock fails?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:57:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Subbu Allamaraju</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13081</link>
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      <description>Just curious - why would the server want to lock a resource? Subbu</description>
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      <title>Re: Resources with read-only and read-write parts</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:03:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Sandeep Shetty</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13080</link>
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      <description>Hey Jim, ... IMO, you seem to be confusing between the state of the resource and its representation. GET and PUT allow you to retrieve and set the state of the</description>
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      <title>Re: Appropriate status code when creating a lock fails?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:29:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>mike amundsen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13079</link>
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      <description>if a concurrency header is  required, but missing I usually return 412 with additonal text reminding of the requirement. ... -- mca http://amundsen.com/blog/</description>
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      <title>Re: Appropriate status code when creating a lock fails?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:20:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jan Algermissen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13078</link>
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      <description>Doh - got things mixed up 304 should obviously have been 412 .</description>
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      <title>Appropriate status code when creating a lock fails?</title>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:02:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jan Algermissen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13077</link>
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      <description>Hi, suppose a situation where clients know that creating a lock on some resource http://www.example.com/docs/1234 is done by PUTing to </description>
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      <title>Re: Resources with read-only and read-write parts</title>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:24:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jan Algermissen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13076</link>
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      <description>Hi Jim, can you provide an example representation for the mutable/immutable use case? Jan</description>
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      <title>Re: Resources with read-only and read-write parts</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:56:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>mike amundsen</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13075</link>
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      <description>Jim: I am addressing the security portion of your post. Hopefully this will give you some ideas. &lt;snip&gt; there are some elements that are modifiable or not</description>
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      <title>Re: Resources with read-only and read-write parts</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:01:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Sam Johnston</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13074</link>
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      <description>Jim, Typically you would express the overall writeability of a resource via OPTIONS (e.g. if you can only GET it&#39;s read only), but if you&#39;ve got, say, a </description>
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      <title>Resources with read-only and read-write parts</title>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:43:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Jim Edwards-Hewitt</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13073</link>
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      <description>Hi, everyone, I&#39;m a newbie here (though not to REST in general), and the list archives have been a great help in clarifying my understanding of a lot of REST</description>
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      <title>Re: Using HTTP Link: headers for web linking non-hypertext</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:18:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Sam Johnston</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13072</link>
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      <description>... Ok so here&#39;s a separate but similar issue. I&#39;ve just released an Internet-Draft</description>
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      <title>Re: Using HTTP Link: headers for web linking non-hypertext</title>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:37:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <dc:creator>Subbu Allamaraju</dc:creator>
      <link>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/rest-discuss/message/13071</link>
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      <description>... They (browsers) do not. But that is besides the point for this thread. The key question being debated is whether link management is a client concern or it</description>
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