http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/ Road Race & Autocross Mustang List Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:55:14 GMT Peter Russell http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36772 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36772 speaking of tuning yourself out of "the box"... when I got my griggs stuff I was single and had no house or car payments and was generally flush with cash, so Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:52:57 GMT Dave Whitworth http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36771 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36771 I was not being sarcastic at all and am aware of Scott's knowledge and how he makes his living and respect him 100%. When he types, I listen. Sorry for the Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:34:54 GMT Peter Russell http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36770 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36770 dave, since I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic to Scott... Scotts not just smart as in, "give him a little info and he can figure it out". he's also Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:36:18 GMT Dave Whitworth http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36769 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36769 On a good day, I am about ¼ as smart as Scott, so needless to say I have years of experience in incorrectly tuning a fully adjustable 3 link. :) -Dave Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:28:35 GMT Scott Whitehead http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36768 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36768 Let me make one more thing really clear. If you're going to make a 3-link work better than a torque arm, you're going to put a LOT of work into it. This is Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:24:07 GMT Dave Whitworth http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36767 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36767 I am an autocross guy, and concur with both Scott and Peter. "Done right" a 3 link is superior just for the adjustability. For street cars, it seems to me Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:14:29 GMT Scott Whitehead http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36766 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36766 I'm not an Autx guy, so I'll let the experts in that field comment for that application. And yes, my analysis assumes you are going to "do it right", which Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:19:24 GMT Peter Russell http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36765 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36765 it's been a long time since I we had a good ole fashioned wrestling match over 3-links. iirc, the upshot was that the 3-link was superior to the TA iff it is Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:39:20 GMT Gene Beaird http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36764 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36764 Actually, for a dedicated CP autoX car, a 3rd link is the way to go. While the Padberg's TA-equipped Mustang seems to rule the day at Nationals, a 3rd link Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:04:03 GMT Peter Russell http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36763 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36763 we have a lot of things here in CA that are not so friendly to the car hobbyist, but inspections are most assuredly NOT one of them. smog is the only thing we Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:47:39 GMT Albert Hermans http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36762 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36762 Just to refresh some memories, the car in question is a daily driven autoX car that will see occasional track days. I hope to build it up as much as possible Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:30:17 GMT Scott Whitehead http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36761 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36761 I'll just add one very general comment. A torque arm car and a 3-link car drive VERY differently. For a street car (where stoplight drag races are the norm) Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:21:40 GMT LS http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36760 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36760 Corner Carvers *can* be a good resource, but be careful what you read and believe. Use it as data to make your own decision...always better to learn the tech Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:06:28 GMT Scott Ford http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36759 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36759 I've had mine for about four years now too, and haven't had any issues at all that weren't caused by me. (I didn't set the pinion angle properly when I first Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:04:23 GMT Peter Russell http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36758 http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rrax-mustang/message/36758 yes, DEFINITELY corner carvers. very rich with engineers. the opinions you get there will tend to be backed up with solid tech, and not be so much of the, "i